Originally Posted by crisis

We (Australia) have never had civilian ccw and the ban on publically owned semi autos has had no detrimental effect.

Originally Posted by Lunatech

Holy crap, not only does CNN say he would prohibit concealed carry nationwide, but he wants to ban the sale of all semi-automatic firearms. Crazy.

Originally Posted by chassisman

Yeah, slowing down the firing rate is the answer. Revolvers aren't nearly as deadly...........

Originally Posted by Steve

I'd say you're in the minority. I think most people would prefer not to see a weapon...

Originally Posted by Steve

The only thing a ban on concealed carry will do is increase the number of people carrying weapons illegally...

Originally Posted by Wallaroo

Just like most americans prefer not to see a beer in public - unless its covered with a brown paper bag of course. The latter is an absolute ridiculous form of hypocrisy IMO.

Originally Posted by Wallaroo

Obama wont be violating the constitution and the 2nd amendment by banning semi-automatic firearms. Since the 2nd amendment is so extremely vague in its texture (only mentioning the word arms) he wont be violating that either by outlawing handgun carrying in public.

Originally Posted by DammitBoy!

I hardly think the opinion of an australian who is against private ownership would have an unbiased opinion on that topic.

Originally Posted by DammitBoy!

I thought I read an article about an increase in violent crime in Australia since the bans?

Originally Posted by MattLarson

It's not that vague any more.

Future suits alleging infringement on the right to keep and bear arms will now be judged on the much stricter standards needed to uphold a restriction on an individual right protected by the Constitution.

Heller was but the first step.

Matt

Originally Posted by Wallaroo

And who are to judge what the right to keep and bear arms mean in practical?

What does this have to do with semi-automatics and concealed carry?

2nd amendment was written before semi-automatics and concealed carry!

Originally Posted by crisis

This is not an opinion “We (Australia) have never had civilian ccw” and this is a fact “the ban on publically owned semi autos has had no detrimental effect.” Unless you can cite some detrimental effect.
And I am not against all private gun ownership.

I would hardly think the opinion of an American who is for private ownership would have an unbiased opinion on that topic though.

Yes I have seen that propaganda also . Pro gunners will sometimes resort to lies to promote their case. In any case it would be of little relevance if it had.