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Re: Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

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It was also written before TV, radio the internet, etc.

Do you take this to mean that freedom of speech does not extend to electronic communication?
That is not a very good answer to my questions, quite frankly.

Among my points are - if they could ban the socalled class 3 firearms then why cant they ban handguns too?
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That is not a very good answer to my questions, quite frankly.

Among my points are - if they could ban the socalled class 3 firearms then why cant they ban handguns too?
Thw Supreme Court just ruled that DC could not ban handguns. So it would appear that one cannot ban handguns.................
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I thought I read an article about an increase in violent crime in Australia since the bans?
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It would be of little relevance if it had.


Really? Little relevance? You wouldn't see any correlation?
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How about "since you don't live here, you don't have a say"?

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I was commenting on the post of an Americans comment on the Australian situation. If I adopted your arrogance I would have to say the same thing to him I suppose.
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Really? Little relevance? You wouldn't see any correlation?
You are wrong but are you suggesting that the removal of guns has caused an increase in violence? Could you please explain the correlation?

Oh and here -

NUMBER OF VICTIMS

Compared to 2006, the number of victims recorded by Australian state and territory police agencies in 2007 decreased for manslaughter, murder, blackmail/extortion, motor vehicle theft, unlawful entry with intent and other theft (table 1). The offence categories recording the largest declines were manslaughter (down 28%) and murder (down 10%). Conversely, there was an increase in the number of victims of robbery (up 4%).

VICTIMISATION RATE

In 2007, the Australian victimisation rates for selected personal offence categories were:
Murder, 1.2 victims per 100,000 persons, down from 1.4 victims in 2006
Attempted murder, 1.2 victims per 100,000 persons, no change from 2006
Kidnapping/abduction, 3.5 victims per 100,000 persons, no change from 2006
Robbery, 86 victims per 100,000 persons, up from 84 victims in 2006
Blackmail/extortion, 2.0 victims per 100,000 persons, down from 2.1 victims in 2006 (table 1)


http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@....007&num=&view=
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Re: Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

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That is not a very good answer to my questions, quite frankly.

Among my points are - if they could ban the socalled class 3 firearms then why cant they ban handguns too?
After Heller, i suspect the 1934NFA is not long for the books - ESPECIALLY since it can very easily be shown that full-auto weapons are most assuredly in "common use". EVERY military in the world uses them. Add on the fact that the NFA applies a tax to the exercise of an individual right for the express purpose of preventing said exercise, and you've got a double-whammy.
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I was commenting on the post of an Americans comment on the Australian situation. If I adopted your arrogance I would have to say the same thing to him I suppose.
No arrogance, just a simple fact. You have no more say about what we do here than we do about what you do there.

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No arrogance, just a simple fact. You have no more say about what we do here than we do about what you do there.

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Re: Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

I am a college educated, white, 31 year old male that owns a business. I carry a concealed gun at all times, 9mm Tangfoglio with a 17 round clip to be exact . I have a concealed carry license. I have never shot any one, or at any one, nor have I ever robbed any one.

I started carrying after I was robbed around 10 years ago by a criminal who raided my house at 3 am and held me hostage for roughly 2 hours. I did not have a gun, he did. The police caught him, he is still serving his 30 year sentence. But they never recovered any of my possessions.

Since I have started carrying I have not been robbed once. There have been a few mugging attempts and car jacking attempts, even still a few home invasion attempts, but they have all been warded off by the fact that I carry a gun. Fact is, I did not even have to point my gun in the assailants direction. They have all turned and ran when they saw me reaching for it. I would not like to know where I would be right now had I not had a concealed weapon.

I can not vote for or support any politician that supports revoking concealed carry licenses. Nor should any one. The ability to defend ones self and property is a necessity.
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Re: Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

"A few" attempted muggings and carjackings?

Not buyin' it. Sorry.
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Since I have started carrying I have not been robbed once. There have been a few mugging attempts and car jacking attempts, even still a few home invasion attempts, but they have all been warded off by the fact that I carry a gun. Fact is, I did not even have to point my gun in the assailants direction. They have all turned and ran when they saw me reaching for it. I would not like to know where I would be right now had I not had a concealed weapon.
I can not vote for or support any politician that supports revoking concealed carry licenses. Nor should any one. The ability to defend ones self and property is a necessity.
I would be more interested in voting for the politician that may support measures to combat the outrageous level of crime in your area.
Sounds like a shit hole. Ever thought of moving?
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Re: Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

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I got the following non-answer from Obama's campaign:



I was quite specific when I asked about the proposed ban on CCW as reported by CNN.

I presume by the unresponsive answer that the campaign prefers to avoid the question.

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Sounds more like nobody read your question and this is the standard formal response to any emails about gun control.

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Leaving aside the whole gun hysteria for a moment, this is plainly something that is in the purview of the individual states.
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Can anyone tell me why/how OH is expected to recognize a same-sex marriage license issued in CA, but CA doesn't have to recognize a CCW licemse issued in OH?
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Re: Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

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I got the following non-answer from Obama's campaign:



I was quite specific when I asked about the proposed ban on CCW as reported by CNN.

I presume by the unresponsive answer that the campaign prefers to avoid the question.

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Would you move outta the country if the national ban comes, and where to?
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Can anyone tell me why/how OH is expected to recognize a same-sex marriage license issued in CA, but CA doesn't have to recognize a CCW licemse issued in OH?
Because a marriage is a permanent contractual relationship between two individuals, and a CCW permit is a local permit to allow certain behavior. Your parade permit issued in OH doesn't work in CA, either.
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