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Old 01-28-2008
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did this a couple of months back and I also was a little disturbed on how easy it was to just walk in and just walk out with a gun with little or no paperwork
HELOO, McFly..................

Ninety-three percent of criminals obtain their firearms illegally, without registration or license, and nothing prevents other criminals from doing the same. Even worse, the U.S. Supreme Court held in Haynes v. U.S. (1968), that a felon could not be convicted for failure to register firearms, because that would violate his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

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Old 01-28-2008
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HELOO, McFly..................

Ninety-three percent of criminals obtain their firearms illegally, without registration or license, and nothing prevents other criminals from doing the same. Even worse, the U.S. Supreme Court held in Haynes v. U.S. (1968), that a felon could not be convicted for failure to register firearms, because that would violate his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

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It is now* legal in Texas according to a recent article to carry a fire arm in ones car without any special need for license to carry. Police if finding such weapon may not bring any charges unless a related crime is involved.

*It, I believe has always been legal to carry a weapon in ones car when travelling in Texas.

It is also unnecessary "any longer" to "retreat" when threatened with bodily harm before engaging in a defensive action.

Outcome of the latest interpretations will be interesting to observe.

I think they will be a plus in curbing car jacking and home invasions as were shotgun squads planted in 7-11s to polish off on the spot those who attempted robbery of these establishments with a weapon in hand.
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It is now* legal in Texas according to a recent article to carry a fire arm in ones car without any special need for license to carry. Police if finding such weapon may not bring any charges unless a related crime is involved.

*It, I believe has always been legal to carry a weapon in ones car when travelling in Texas.

It is also unnecessary "any longer" to "retreat" when threatened with bodily harm before engaging in a defensive action.

Outcome of the latest interpretations will be interesting to observe.

I think they will be a plus in curbing car jacking and home invasions as were shotgun squads planted in 7-11s to polish off on the spot those who attempted robbery of these establishments with a weapon in hand.
Aint it wonderful to live in a state which encourages "felon management"?
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From what I've read, the 44 is more accurate at longer distances.

.500 is one hell of a handgun, but I'd lean more towards the .460.


If you ever do try the .50 AE Desert Eagle, be sure to keep a firm grip.
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So, I purchased my second firearm today; a Smith & Wesson M&P45. Entire process, from walking in the door to walking out with pistol, ammo, and cleaning kit, was less than 30 minutes. Honestly, it's a little scary how easy that was. I filled out a form, they checked me in their computer system, and I was done.

As a liberal, I'm not sure how I feel about how easy it was. However, I do look forward to taking it to the range and seeing how it shoots.

Before you fire it, take it back to the store and ask them to hold on to it for six months, then hire a PI to investigate your background. That should make you feel better.
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Before you fire it, take it back to the store and ask them to hold on to it for six months, then hire a PI to investigate your background. That should make you feel better.


It's already got a few hundred rounds through it.

You know, this kind of shit doesn't really add anything. I'm sorry that you can't understand that some people might be taken a little aback by the fact that they can walk into a store and walk out a very short time later with a pretty easily concealable and very potentially dangerous weapon. It's something that gives one pause.

Note that I didn't say that it was wrong, or that it shouldn't have happened that way. I just said that I found the ease of the process "a little scary."
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I can't believe the guy left her shoot that.
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It's already got a few hundred rounds through it.

You know, this kind of shit doesn't really add anything. I'm sorry that you can't understand that some people might be taken a little aback by the fact that they can walk into a store and walk out a very short time later with a pretty easily concealable and very potentially dangerous weapon. It's something that gives one pause.

Note that I didn't say that it was wrong, or that it shouldn't have happened that way. I just said that I found the ease of the process "a little scary."
I'm more taken aback that someone can walk into a car dealer after passing one joke of a driving test 10 years before and drive around the streets having never proved to anyone that they're still fully capable and skilled at driving the thing.

More people get killed by cars than guns, lets get some morons off the streets and keep law abiding gun owners able to purchase weapons if they want.
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Old 01-29-2008
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Aint it wonderful to live in a state which encourages "felon management"?
Texans have some "unique characteristics"
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I'm more taken aback that someone can walk into a car dealer after passing one joke of a driving test 10 years before and drive around the streets having never proved to anyone that they're still fully capable and skilled at driving the thing.

More people get killed by cars than guns, lets get some morons off the streets and keep law abiding gun owners able to purchase weapons if they want.
Ah, yes. The cars=guns argument. Can't you guys come up with something new?
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Ah, yes. The cars=guns argument. Can't you guys come up with something new?
Sure - as soon as you anti's do.

Whatever emotional tripe you present, we're MORE than happy and ready to refute with facts and law.
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Sure - as soon as you anti's do.

Whatever emotional tripe you present, we're MORE than happy and ready to refute with facts and law.
But, but, but...

IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!

Dum-da-dum-dum...DUMB!
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Sure - as soon as you anti's do.

Whatever emotional tripe you present, we're MORE than happy and ready to refute with facts and law.
Well, given that all I said was that I found the experience a little disconcerting, I'd love for you to refute with facts and law.

Go ahead.
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Well, given that all I said was that I found the experience a little disconcerting, I'd love for you to refute with facts and law.

Go ahead.


It did, in fact, follow the law, didn't it?
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Well, given that all I said was that I found the experience a little disconcerting, I'd love for you to refute with facts and law.

Go ahead.
No, thats NOT all you said. You implied the guns/cars equation is a tired argument.

If you don't like the obvious refutations of your emotion based position, tough.

Pram - I consider your type of gun owner to be the biggest threat to my rights. You've got your guns, but think you should also be able to dictate who else can exercise their rights and what kind of guns they may own in doing so. You are happy to play right into every anti-gun suggestion as long as you don't personally find it too inconvenient.

This is roughly akin to throwing your friends into the tiger's mouth, hoping he'll eat you last.
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