And what of the incompetence of a Democratic administration under which the terrorists came here and trained here?

I was answering Tim's baseless generalizations with some of my own. You don't actually expect me to stand by them, do you?

So you're saying you're afraid to stand by what you said?

Oddly, not completely unsurprising...

O-okay, here it goes. Is the FBI full of Democrats? Uh, I mean WAS the FBI full of Democrats? Because if it isn't by now, then your country is well and truly fucked.

You can do better than that, Dodge.

You're afraid to stand by what you said. That's expected.

You're afraid to admit that, as willing as you are to be critical of the "Right" in the States, you're equally unwilling to be critical of the fact that the 9/11 terrorists entered under an administration which was much further to the left.

It's okay, you don't have to say it. Blind partisanship is all we've come to expect from you...

No, I'm not. I don't think it's a secret that US intelligence services are very bad at their job. To compound the problem, they're also excessively arrogant, which means that they tend to dismiss any intel supplied by their allies which doesn't confirm their preconceptions. I'm sure this is not entirely the fault of the Right, however I have no doubt that the Bush administration's arrogant nationalism has only worsened the situation.

That's fine. You're hardly impartial, yourself.

When I have time, I made a nice summary of the history of UNSC w.r.t. Iraq in a post quite a while back. The sources I cited were directly from the UNSC's site. As I've actually done the research on the history (based on UNSC publications) of both France's and Russia's activities during the decade or so leading to Iraq, there is nothing revisionistic about it. If I find that post, I will re-post it for you. Revisionist...pffft.

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them; speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

And, again, you fail (miserably, I might add) to address the fact that the 9/11terrorists didn't enter the country while the "evil right" was in power.

And being partisan or nonpartisan has no place in a discussion of facts; something which seems to be lost on you.

The terrorists were here because "the left" allowed them in. The contrary can only be argued from a position of ignorance...

Well, who cares? Certainly not me.

It is most definitely not lost on me. What facts would you care to discuss?

And they succeeded in their attacks because "the right" let them. What's your point?

I'm looking forward to it.

I harbor no illusion that you would contribute to a discussion based only on facts. Your obvious partisanship would surely come shining through.

I submit that you know nothing about the attacks, about Al-Qaeda, or about what the left and right did and didn't do, with the possible exception of what you've been spoon-fed by whatever drooling-liberal news outlet you rely on...

Once again, who cares? You are not in a good position to castigate anyone for partisanship.

An independant is a partisan

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them; speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

Why not? AFAIK, one doesn't preclude the other...

I'm a registered Independent, Sport. Who's more qualified to do it than an Independent?