Originally Posted by Agentorange

Which brings me back to what I was saying earlier....does a person have to be deported back to their own nation state or can they just be deported out of the USA ?

Originally Posted by Traveler

You're either being silly or have no idea of immigration law.

Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere

Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa), and Ben Nelson (D-Ne), have introduced the Accountability in Immigrant Repatriation (AIR) Act of 2008. This proposed legislation would impose sanctions on countries that refuse to take back aliens that are subject to deportation due to criminal misconduct and/or visa and entry violations and have been ordered to be deported.

I'm glad Arlen Specter has taken away from his precious time investigating serious matters of security and spending such as how much steroids baseball pitchers and batters take in order to address a humongous security and cost vacuum situation that has been going on for years. As for the rest of Congress on this issue, phooey even more.

IMO, this measure is long overdue and should be passed ASAP. Why the federal government has decided to wait so long is totally unacceptable.

Even Ashcroft brought it up back in 2001 how big the problem has grown and that it was going to be even more concerning given the SCOTUS had then just announced, in Zadvdas v. Davis, and follow up cases, that immigrants held in custody pending deportation could not be ordinarily be held more than 6 months based upon the current deportation statutory scheme plus due process concerns.

In other words, if they can't be deported, nations won't accept them, etc, then they must be released--even the worst criminals such as gangland dope dealers and murderers, rapists, paedophiles and other sex offenders, etc.

Ashcroft Seeks Return of Criminal Immigrants - New York Times

ZADVYDAS v. DAVIS

In one case, Clark v. Martinez, Justice Scalia wrote about those decrying their holding: "The government fears that the security of our borders will be compromised if it must release into the country inadmissible aliens who cannot be removed. If that is so, Congress can attend to it, . . .'' It's about time they do.

As of February 11, 2008, eight countries are refusing to accept over 139,000 aliens. Over 18,000 of them are convicted criminals who have been released back onto U.S. streets. Other nations selectively choose to refuse or stonewall, especially in the case of serious criminal offenders. Nations on the uncooperative list include China, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, Egypt, Somalia, etc. Common fobs are those by Jamaica that claim that the US environment is responsible for making their criminal citizens what they are; others are more forthright about the real reason--they don't want them back and would rather make them the US's ongoing problem.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08434408.htm

The costs of detaining criminal deportable aliens is tremendous and drains federal, state and local funds in detaining them. Currently, it is estimated that US prisons hold about 600,000 criminal illegal immigrants. Funding to deport these aliens is also low, and remarkably the 2009 budget to ICE to do so has not been increased to accomplish the task.

For example here in PA where I live in a state prison,



The Sentinel Online : News

Even county prisons get socked with the state and local taxpayers burning up their tax dollars and resources.

Take Luzerne County in PA for example. It's not a metropolis area, but is medium populated with the small cities of Wilkes-Barre and the now famous Hazelton, the city that had the nationally known attempt to force out illegal aliens in the city by prohibiting rentals, etc.



Standard Speaker - Officials: Illegals in prison cost county

Releasing the worst of the criminal aliens into society poses just as bad if not even a worse threat and even a plethora of nonviolent criminals being released degrades the quality of life in society.

But, I wonder how long this all will stall once again, the huge costs and threats being bore by the American law abiding taxpayers seeking a safer society.

Originally Posted by Steve

Any country that refuses to accept deported aliens should have all US foreign aid severed...

Originally Posted by Swoop187

Its so typical of other nations to reject their unwanted shit on America. Remember what Castro did in 1980? America is turning into the trash bin of the world.

Originally Posted by Swoop187

I find it fucked up that we give aid to somany countries IE MEXICO and they refuse there own illegals? Its time to grow some balls and tell Mexcio how it is.

Mexico jails illegals from the south (south america) and then puts on a pouty face for the illegals the come up north. the reason why is because these fucking illegals send american cash back to mexico.

we should take over mexico. the mexican government is nonsense and we would have few resistors. It be a cake walk. yes i mean steal mexico. if you steal a country that is stealing from us then they can steal from us anymore. its almost a poetic payback. i like texas, mexico could just be a big texas with resorts. hell we would do a better job at running mexico then the mexican government could.

Originally Posted by Swoop187

I find it fucked up that we give aid to somany countries IE MEXICO and they refuse there own illegals? Its time to grow some balls and tell Mexcio how it is.

Mexico jails illegals from the south (south america) and then puts on a pouty face for the illegals the come up north. the reason why is because these fucking illegals send american cash back to mexico.

we should take over mexico. the mexican government is nonsense and we would have few resistors. It be a cake walk. yes i mean steal mexico. if you steal a country that is stealing from us then they can steal from us anymore. its almost a poetic payback. i like texas, mexico could just be a big texas with resorts. hell we would do a better job at running mexico then the mexican government could.