Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa), and Ben Nelson (D-Ne), have introduced the Accountability in Immigrant Repatriation (AIR) Act of 2008. This proposed legislation would impose sanctions on countries that refuse to take back aliens that are subject to deportation due to criminal misconduct and/or visa and entry violations and have been ordered to be deported.

I'm glad Arlen Specter has taken away from his precious time investigating serious matters of security and spending such as how much steroids baseball pitchers and batters take in order to address a humongous security and cost vacuum situation that has been going on for years. As for the rest of Congress on this issue, phooey even more.

IMO, this measure is long overdue and should be passed ASAP. Why the federal government has decided to wait so long is totally unacceptable.

Even Ashcroft brought it up back in 2001 how big the problem has grown and that it was going to be even more concerning given the SCOTUS had then just announced, in Zadvdas v. Davis, and follow up cases, that immigrants held in custody pending deportation could not be ordinarily be held more than 6 months based upon the current deportation statutory scheme plus due process concerns.

In other words, if they can't be deported, nations won't accept them, etc, then they must be released--even the worst criminals such as gangland dope dealers and murderers, rapists, paedophiles and other sex offenders, etc.

Ashcroft Seeks Return of Criminal Immigrants - New York Times

ZADVYDAS v. DAVIS

In one case, Clark v. Martinez, Justice Scalia wrote about those decrying their holding: "The government fears that the security of our borders will be compromised if it must release into the country inadmissible aliens who cannot be removed. If that is so, Congress can attend to it, . . .'' It's about time they do.

As of February 11, 2008, eight countries are refusing to accept over 139,000 aliens. Over 18,000 of them are convicted criminals who have been released back onto U.S. streets. Other nations selectively choose to refuse or stonewall, especially in the case of serious criminal offenders. Nations on the uncooperative list include China, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, Egypt, Somalia, etc. Common fobs are those by Jamaica that claim that the US environment is responsible for making their criminal citizens what they are; others are more forthright about the real reason--they don't want them back and would rather make them the US's ongoing problem.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08434408.htm

The costs of detaining criminal deportable aliens is tremendous and drains federal, state and local funds in detaining them. Currently, it is estimated that US prisons hold about 600,000 criminal illegal immigrants. Funding to deport these aliens is also low, and remarkably the 2009 budget to ICE to do so has not been increased to accomplish the task.

For example here in PA where I live in a state prison,

The Sentinel Online : News

Even county prisons get socked with the state and local taxpayers burning up their tax dollars and resources.

Take Luzerne County in PA for example. It's not a metropolis area, but is medium populated with the small cities of Wilkes-Barre and the now famous Hazelton, the city that had the nationally known attempt to force out illegal aliens in the city by prohibiting rentals, etc.

Standard Speaker - Officials: Illegals in prison cost county

Releasing the worst of the criminal aliens into society poses just as bad if not even a worse threat and even a plethora of nonviolent criminals being released degrades the quality of life in society.

But, I wonder how long this all will stall once again, the huge costs and threats being bore by the American law abiding taxpayers seeking a safer society.

I agree...and as far as it getting done? Shake the 8 ball and see what it says.....Dude...bush fired some lawyers......get in the que...

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
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Mortgage Backed Security survivor

You know when this is gonna become real fun? When info gotten from folks at Guitmo through things like Waterboarding is all gonna be deemed inadmissable and then we're gonna have to start releasing terrorists into the U.S....then we're gonna see the real fun and games come about.

Just happy that I and others have our guns......cause Americans will need them.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

After all of these years, I can't believe Spector is doing something worth while.

And I can still recall his email where he tried to tell me that illegals are needed.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Illegals are needed, for him anyway. Its not like Bere or you are gonna do his garden for him and drive him round!

It'll be interesting to see whether it comes down to it (i expect every Presidential candidate to baulk and backpedal, then support detention, rendition, harsh interrogation, torture, no lawyers etc etc once they get the "special" briefing from the President of the time like McCain has from Bush), but Pro, if it did come down to it, civillian's guns won't match their bombs...

I'm not so sure. Millions of guns and ????? hundreds of thousands of pounds of blackpowder can do a crap load of damage. Not to mention the Military and Police.

But if people will walk buy while seeing a child get pressure hosed down, we're screwed then IMO.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Pro all those guns together would kill as many as one possible attack from them.

And yes we would have our armed forces but you would need to wave PC and enact insurrection laws to allow them to operate within the country under emergence and curfew laws, if we're at that stage then we're fucked anyway.

As for LEO, well yes they would indeed be helpful, if they had the tools to do their job which is all tied in with the same thing (either all of the law will be upheld or all of it will go) in which case we're either gonna have to not need LE or it become pointless.

As for kids getting abused, well nah Mere Tranquility will sort that one out for us (probably by telling folks to wash their hair less frequently).

Don't get me started on this subject....the White House has done absolutely NOTHING while the last 8 years we have had a landslide of illegals literally taking over whole counties in our southern states, costing those states $billions instead of spending on...oh things like education.
Then the worthless Congress that we have had for the past 4 years has done nothing about ANYTHING let alone immigration.
I don't know if there has been a time when we have had all three branches of government that has done so little.

I agree. That's why I don't understand people getting excited over the presidential election. They sucked ass as congress critters and they'll suck ass as a president.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

So, are these guys who have committed crimes since coming to the states or before ? I ask simply because if they've done the crime since coming to the states I don't see why the parent countries should have to take them back. After all they probably don't want convicted criminals in their country anyomre than you do. Do they have to be deported back to their parent country ? can't you simply say 'right, pick any flight under $300 dollars ( or whatever ) because you're out of here ' simply load them onto a flight to the first country that will accept them and your problem is solved......

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England has no eternal friends and no eternal enemies, only eternal interests - Palmerston

Or better yet, place them on a boat that has a hole in it.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

I heard Antarctica would be a good place for them.

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Election 2008 – Addicted to Placebos

Any country that refuses to accept deported aliens should have all US foreign aid severed...