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Re: Violence and Social Unrest
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While I take serious exception to the notion that the last couple centuries have seen us "enamored of 'peace and prosperity'," I think you're probably right about there being some sort of psychological/sociological need for outlets of aggression. However, I see the connection between that inherent aggressiveness and violence as only coincidental. The need/desire is to be able to express competitiveness, aggression, and physical energy (which are all healthy and useful things, provided that are in moderation and expressed in the right context). I see no inherent need to express violence for the sake of expressing violence; violence merely happens to conveniently combine competition, aggression and physical energy. As such, moderate, contained "violence," such as in the competitive sports you mentioned, is almost certainly beneficial to those who desire to participate in it. Others, of course, could find different outlets for competitiveness, aggression, and physical energy, perhaps using a variety of non-violent activities to deal with them each in turn. That said, I really have only two points to make: 1) While being free to engage in contained, moderate, violence (such as sports) might be useful for individuals, there's nothing especially useful about the "bloodletting." If we can find healthy outlets for aggression, competitiveness and physical energy that won't risk serious injury, so much the better. Preventing minor injuries is generally not worth the effort, expense and inconvenience. But we certainly shouldn't encourage individuals to embrace extreme violence that intends serious injury to other people. 2) I would beware of the notion that, if young men can only find an accepted outlet for violent behavior, they will "get it out of their system." While that may be true for some types of physical energy and competitiveness, I think experience has indicated that violent behavior doesn't work that way. Cultures that have embraced violence in their youth have tended to be more violent in general. Violence begets violence, even in the individual.
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Re: Violence and Social Unrest
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I am conflicted about that. Before my battalion went to combat the first time, we had Marines doing the "typical" Marine thing of drinking and fighting when they could get away with it. Now that they have been to combat a few times, there are very few of these instances. The "glory" of fighting has been removed, now that they have seen and participated in the ultimate outcome of fighting. They are not running around wild, like your response would expect them to be doing. I believe it is what the society will accept and won't accept, and how that society changes its view. In the society we as warriors live in, violence for the sake of violence is looked down upon, and generally not accepted, so the young guys mostly fall into line (but with frequent deviations when they think they won't get caught.) Compare the Marine society with American society at large, whose morales change with the wind, and where anything goes, and the violence level outside is much higher. The violence for the sake of violence is glorified and passivly encouraged by the civilian world, and the rates of unchecked violence continues to rise. What I believe works is a society that glorifies vilence only on the battlefield, and condemns and disavows it outside of battle, kinda like the Corps does. |
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"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" |
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