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Re: DC Gun ban goes to SC Tuesday
The Bong Hits case was incredibly stupid, and I don't blame the SC for making light of it. Everyone I know certainly did, too.
This gun thing, though, will possibly have big-time ramifications. |
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So until the law changes you do not believe you have to explain how the mere ownership of a weapon is an overt threat, but yet you expect us to believe you think it is? Quote:
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In truth, anyone who COULD walk around with all that would be quite deadly even unarmed. You just described well over 100lbs of weapons and ammunition. Nope - i guess there isnt. Quote:
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Yeah, that's gonna be awesome.
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Typically, they are not in a militia, not very regulated, and possibly not well, either.
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and, according to the text, one does not need to be part of a well regulated militia in order to bear arms.
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That little comma, and the terrible grammar have been quite problemmatic. Be interesting to see if the SC tackles it, or wimps out.
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Where did it say that being in a well regulated militia was a requirement to owning a gun? It just says that it would be a good idea for a state to have one, and also says that states may not infringe on the individual right to bear arms.
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Well, it seems, at least to Justice Kennedy (a vital swing vote), that the little comma means nothing: "In my view, (the Second Amendment is) saying there is a general right to bear arms, quite without reference to a militia," Kennedy said. McClatchy Washington Bureau | 03/18/2008 | Supreme Court justices critical of D.C. gun ban
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Well, there you go. They're the legal experts, so whatever they say goes, any disagreement I may have notwithstanding.
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What disagreement do you have? Why is a ban on handguns nessecary and why is Justice Kennedy wrong?
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That the comma is separating two independent clauses, as opposed to just further description of the militia's establishment.
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As we see, this is exactly why there is debate, there are multiple ways to read the Amendment. Each side thinks its interpretation is the correct one, but the mere existence of debate proves that there is not a single definitive reading of the text.
This is why this has the potential to be such a landmark case as it could effectively wipe out one side of the debate. I personally hope it does so that we can finally put this to rest and stop having it come up every time the left and right go at each other. |
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My personal belief is all this debate is caused by a simple spelling mistake. The summer when the Constitution was written and debated was terribly hot, and air conditioning was unavailable. Therefore the Founders included the amendment to ensure wearing of short sleeved shirts was allowed, "the right to bare arms shall not be infringed"
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