The argument over the DC Gun Ban starts Tuesday before the Supreme Court.
This is the first time the SC has had to rule on what exactly the 2nd Amendment means.
All kinds of possibilities manifest themselves around this case. The court might decide there is no personal right to bar arms, or it might decide that there is a right to bear arms but it's limited and the Ban is legal. Or something in between.

Individual's Right to Bear Arms at Issue

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

this may point to what kind of court we can expect till the next vacancy.

If they punt it, its still in limbo...

I'll be brave and take a wild guess- they come down with the "people"...

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

The SCOTUS being the CYA wusses they are, I betcha they punt.

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(Voting for None Of The Above, so far...)

Still, given the thousands of posts this topic has generated, an actual SC ruling will be an interesting addition to the discussion.

There is a theory, that no matter what a potential SC justice has expressed over a lifetime,when they become a justice of the SC, they are immediately immersed in a social circle that is predominantly liberal. After all if you are a SC justice you are far more likely to have lunch with Dean of Harvard Law School than with the Dean of the East Podunk Christian Academy of Law. And we are all concerned with what our peers think of us, so the pressure to "rise to fill the robes" becomes huge, and the more prestigious an institution is, the more likely that Liberals will fill the top spots.
So while the meat and potatoes Republicans may look at a court where the 7 of the 9 justices were appointed by presidents who described themselves as conservative, and think all gun laws are about to be stricken from the books, there is a good chance that gun bans will be strengthened.

Anyway the big difference between this and the hundreds of other threads on the this topic is that this thread will have a definite answer within a relatively short time.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

I've discussed this case in two of my classes thus far and it is the one case I am most anticipating reading about once it is decided. I'm practically giddy with the potential this has for being a monumental case.

Plus, it could end the annoying strife between the left and the right on the issue of gun control.

Are you in law school?

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

The idea of this terrifies me. If the SC upholds the DC ban, I expect bad things to happen.

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During the journey we commonly forget its goal. Almost every profession is chosen as a means to an end but continued as an end in itself. Forgetting our objectives is the most frequent act of stupidity.
-Friedrich Nietzsche, The Wanderer and his Shadow

All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
-Eurosocialist

Not yet, going to be this Fall though.

I discussed the case in a Law & Society class and a political science seminar on the Supreme Court, the latter of which I am currently taking.

It will be interesting to see what the Court says.

I suspect we'll get a very narrowly crafted ruling which is so specific to the DC matter as to make it moot with respect to the larger issue of individual versus collective right.

Matt

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I gotta agree with you buddy.

Banning guns just wont make guns go away. Banning guns would just be an insult to the Constitution.

Hell if they made guns go away welfare trash in DC would just do drive by stabbings instead.

Why are the leftists always trying to ban something? If the leftists had their way they would ban democracy.

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Of course one interesting aspect is that the Justices live near and work in the city of Washington DC, so the thought of driving to work through a "right to carry concealed weapons area" may just influence their votes a tad.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

I doubt it considering they are protected by the Supreme Court Police. All high up government officials live lives characterized by a complete separation from everyone else.

You mean, like Virginia?



What a silly statement, Goober.

Matt

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Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

"You can take my weapon from my cold, dead hands!"

DC in its self could ban guns and the rest of VA would be exempt of that.

Whats the county name of DC?

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America’s political correctness is a disease that will bring down our once fine nation.