I don't thnk the intent is to reduce crime. You can make a case that it keeps felons or crazy people from buying guns from federally licensed dealers which is OK, but otherwise its just putting a marker on you so they'll know where to go when the grabbing begins.

In what way does my exercise of my rights endanger you?
That is YOUR choice. Do NOT presume the rest of us think that way.
Actually, we DO have that legal right, and in point of fact, it is explicitly codified into law in at least ONE state, and backed up by case law in a few others.
How is it nonsense?
Nobody is claiming any right do deprive another of his life, except you of course.
MAYBE you can. That assumes you actually can get out of jail.
Not entirely true. As pointed out, in at least one state, the right and legal authority to resist an unlawful arrest is explicitly codified into law.

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No problem. Pick one - I'll happily find fault.
Quite a claim there. Have proof of it, or do you just enjoy slandering 4 million people?
Short answer is, a felon cannot be charged with failing to register a firearm as it is a direct violation of his 5th Amendment protections against self-incrimination.

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You can't really make that argument, either. Firearms dealers are required to run the potential purchaser's ID thru NICS proir to allowing the firearms purchase.

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isn't that what I said ?

so you get the benefit of screening the buyer which is fine. but once screened, the information is useless and, as I'm recalling just now, in VA that information goes away after a period of time (a month or two ? not sure).

The NICS check info is discarded in all states (it's a federal program).

Matt

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It didn’t sound that way. We already screen potential gun purchasers with the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, so there will be no added benefit from a national registry. Each state has its own statutes, but as far NICS records go, the records are kept no longer than 24 hours.

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ok, I get it

and yes, national registry bad

Again, link please

Your Choice

I said the leadership, members are well meaning dupes. I submit their policeis as proof

Yeh, yeh, but he is penalized for having the gun, which is the same thing.

Here ya go - subchapter C, Section 9.31(c): The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the
peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts
to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search;
and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably
believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself
against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use
of greater force than necessary.

PENAL CODE CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY

Also, you said: Self-defense is a legitimate exercise of a right. The attacker HAS no right to harm another, and thereby chooses to accept the consequences of his actions. If those consequences involve him getting shot - too bad.

And yes, the guns of MOST gun owners are never used against another human being. There are over 300 million firearms and over 100 million firearm owners in this country. The vast majority of them NEVER harm another human being with them.

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No, it isnt the same thing. Laws which require the law abiding to register will ONLY be used against the law abiding. As they will not, and legally in fact CANNOT be used against the felon in possession, they cannot meet their stated purpose in addition to being illegal.

Government was not granted the authority to control civilian ownership of weapons, hence it does not have said authority.

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Read the law again, it says that one can defend oneself "if the officer acts BEFORE the actor offers any resistance or if the actor 'reasonably believes the force is necessary to protect himself' and then only if immediately necessary to protect oneself" etc.

In other words, if the cop just walks up and starts beating you, you can fight back.

So yeh, you may have a point here, but it doesn't go as far as you seem to be thinking. You do have a right to protect yourself from harm IF SOMEONE ELSE IS INFLICTING IT ON YOU (OR ABOUT TO) AND YOU HAVE NOT RESISTED

You are NOT given carte blanche to resist arrest, even if you DO think it's illegal. That's what false arrest suits are for

Maybe you weren't positing that. If so I misunderstood.

And in any case, look back at my other posts. I said that I understood what the cops did in New Orleans and I would do it myself in similar circumstances, not that I thought it was proper or even legal. Desperate times, however, do sometimes call for desperate measures

And yes, thankfully most guns are never used against people, that isn't what I asked. My question was how do you go about defending yourself with a gun without at least a very real threat that you will shoot somebody?

You did misunderstand.
I don't understand what they did. It was theft under color of law, plain and simple.
I addressed that - and my lawful self defense endangers nobody's rights. As I pointed out, an attacker has no right to do me harm, and every reason to expect he will get hurt in the process if he chooses to do so.

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The Sheriff of my parish also ordered that guns be confiscated. They didn't go house to house but there was a much talked about instance where deputies boarded a boat and took two rifles and refused to give a receipt. No one was shooting at helicopters or the police in my city but the Sheriff reacted anyway. I can guarantee you that they would have had to take my guns by force because law enforcement was spread thin and had any looters came on my street, I wanted to be able to stop them from stealing from me or my neighbors.

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