I have a lot of friends who own guns.

Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than any ten of them combined...

I seriously doubt that is their objective. How can we know what's in the mind of such a mental patient?

All a civilized society can do is try to keep weapons out of their hands.

Exactly right.

Laura Bush's car too.

Had his mental history been properly reported, he would not have been able to buy the gun.

So what more do you think should have been done to keep the VT killer from getting a gun?

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He had been in a mental hospital. How much more reporting is needed?

Like I've been saying, about 5 times on this thread - tougher gun restrictions, stronger testing and regulations. Everything the Brady campaign advocates. That's what's more should be done.

For example:

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

Don't be brainwashed into thinking the Brady campaign wants to take away lawful citizens guns. That's not what it's all about.

Our laws are not sufficient at this time. We need to improve them.

So let's outlaw cars.

I'm sure that would seem downright fucking logical to you...

No, we need to enforce them...

She wasn't actually called Laura Bush at the time but i'm sure you'll do all you can to tie the Bush name into it.

Nothing more than a pathetically lame left-wing attempt to further sully the name.

Whether what they say is true or not doesn't matter to a lib...

Ummmm. They need the health providers to report it to the government just as they are required to do for driver licensing review, communicable disease checking, etc. That way the government can enter the proper disabilities and suspensions that gun shops use to authorise a sale. It is the government--not the gun shop--that authorises a sale. They call in a proposed sale to the government and it checks for any disabilities on their records. In any system there will be situations that fall through the cracks where someone didn't record or report what they were required to do. That's human error--not system error--and can happen in any situation.

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LOL!!!! It's not possible to further sully that name.

But you brought up a car accident out of context. I just showed you another one.

OK ready to stop the insults and get back to the conversation? Are you capable?

Was it proven that the mental hospital did not report his stay?

Are you against training and testing for a gun license as we are tested for a driver's license?

Too easy...

How exactly do you 'test' for that? Proving a negative? If someone is 'normal' on the outside appearance then they can lie. It's reporting of illnesses that stops such deceits and nabs such people on a disability list. As for 'training,' what does that entail? We issue licences at 'of age' years and experience makes one a better driver. Some drivers are better than others. We revoke driver's licences for poor driving skills.

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Where's the proof his stay at the mental hospital was not reported? I've never heard that. I think the problem is that the background checks are not sufficient.

We give drivers written and driving tests.

There is no test to buy a gun.

There should be mandatory gun safety classes and a written and shooting test. There should be deep criminal and mental background checks and even a psychiatric test BEFORE a person should be allowed to buy a gun.

No more of this 15 minute background check, buy a gun the same day you walk into the store.

It's insane. Why would anyone be against all this? Only law abiding sane citizens should be able to buy guns!