its sort of what the SC does, decide things...

I was referring to your take on the matter, not the notion of jurisprudence.

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-Thomas Jefferson

And how is it "my way" ? I mean I agree with the decision but it wasn't MINE. And just because the ACLU does not, should not be reason to ignore it.

"If they see it as a collective and not individual right, they don't support it at all."

Basically you're saying, supporting a different interpretation than mine is the same thing as not supporting it.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Prominant in the decision of the court was that it is, in fact, an individual right. If they can't accept that, how can they be said to support it ?

Well, I suppose the question will be whether or not they take a stance upholding the court's decision, in spite of having said they don't agree with its interpretation. The last couple of sentences in the blurb you posted seem to indicate that they're waiting for some clarification.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Its been how long getting it nailed down and they're waiting for more ? And based on the collective/individual aspect thats no longer in doubt ?

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Probably, but then it's largely a liberal organization, so I don't find that surprising. What's of more interest to me is how it behaves going forward - if it maintains its organization integrity/purpose, then it will support individual right to arm as laid out by the SCOTUS. Of course, this still goes back to the original point that the NRA is much better equipped (no pun intended) to support this sort of case on behalf of gun owners or would-be gun owners.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

All rights in the Bill of Rights are equal, but in the actions of the ACLU, some rights are more equal than others.

Matt

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They may receive it in exactly the same manner that the ACLU does, which is, not at all, except for the instance where a case is won against the state, and legal fees are paid by the looser.

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the point being that both are privately funded, and as the aclu has the non profit status re: its mission- protecting the rights of the infringed, so I'd say its almost an encumbering absolute that they must protect that right, as now stipulated by the SC re: the 2nd amendment wither they like it or not.

But we are dealing with reality here. Collective, individual etc. they disagree, wow am I shocked...this is why folks, like me, believe that the aclu is frankly just another Liberal pressure grp. with an agenda that’s misleading , go read their homepage.
At least with the NRA there’s no b.s., you know exactly what you are paying for in the membership fee, the aclu? No, its more like we defend the rights of those laws WE think are correct.....so your interpretation of the second amend. Or say the 1st does not warrant our defense, because of our/your political/social outlook.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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Like many things, social movements to fruits, things often turn rotten over time.

As the ACLU clearly demonstrates.

The ACLU hasn't stood for anything decent in a very long time. Only rotten.

The American Civil Liberties Union is not named because they protect American's civil liberties, only that they exist in America. The ACLU has clearly determined what they believe to be civil liberties, who is worthy of them, and will defend those accordingly. More power to them. And to hell with them.

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No, and neither does the ACLU.

Not in the least. Five activists do not constitute the view of the law for all of time.