Will the ACLU start defending 2nd amendment rights now that the supreme court has declared the right to bear arms is a individual right? Their bull shit anti-2nd amendment interpretation of the 2nd amendment no longer flies and they claim to be an organization that defends constitutional rights.Since the Supreme court has declared the right to bear arms is a individual right will they defend that right?


American Civil Liberties Union : Gun Control
Why doesn't the ACLU support an individual's unlimited right to keep and bear arms?

BACKGROUND
The ACLU has often been criticized for "ignoring the Second Amendment" and refusing to fight for the individual's right to own a gun or other weapons. This issue, however, has not been ignored by the ACLU. The national board has in fact debated and discussed the civil liberties aspects of the Second Amendment many times.

We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one, intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government. In today's world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles. The ACLU therefore believes that the Second Amendment does not confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons nor does it prohibit reasonable regulation of gun ownership, such as licensing and registration.

IN BRIEF
The national ACLU is neutral on the issue of gun control. We believe that the Constitution contains no barriers to reasonable regulations of gun ownership. If we can license and register cars, we can license and register guns.

Most opponents of gun control concede that the Second Amendment certainly does not guarantee an individual's right to own bazookas, missiles or nuclear warheads. Yet these, like rifles, pistols and even submachine guns, are arms.

The question therefore is not whether to restrict arms ownership, but how much to restrict it. If that is a question left open by the Constitution, then it is a question for Congress to decide.

ACLU POLICY
"The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms." — Policy #47

ARGUMENTS, FACTS, QUOTES

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
— The Second Amendment to the Constitution

"Since the Second Amendment. . . applies only to the right of the State to maintain a militia and not to the individual's right to bear arms, there can be no serious claim to any express constitutional right to possess a firearm."
— U.S. v. Warin (6th Circuit, 1976)

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I don't think there's any need, since the NRA already actively takes care of this and probably has better, more specific resources to bear than the ACLU.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

But the ACLU claims to be an organization that stands up for constitutional rights.If you claim to be a group that stands up for constitutional rights you have to stand up for all constitutional rights.

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"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”—Theodore Roosevelt

I would imagine that, in principle, they support the second amendment. But only one outfit can realistically take a particular legal case, and I think that, almost invariably, the NRA is going to be more qualified.

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deos the nra receive gov. funding?

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I beg to differ,if the ACLU can sue on the behalf of illegals,sue because some court has a ten commandments monument,sue because a county has a cross in it's county seal,sue to remove a cross off a war memorial,help aid terrorist in Gitmo,and many other things then they can spare the man power to defend gun owners.The fact is the ACLU doesn't give a rats about the constitution.If the ACLU defended the right to bear arms like they do with the 1st amendment and other rights there would not be any severe gun control laws at all in this country.

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"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”—Theodore Roosevelt

Huh?

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The ACLU has limited resources, and must choose to use those resources effectively. The NRA is far more effective at handling gun rights issues, and the ACLU focuses on other civil liberties.

If you don't support the ACLU's mission, don't give them any money. Then, you really don't have to worry about it.

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The ACLU is a taxpayer funded terrorist support group.

They need to take the American out of their name because they don't defend Americans or American values anymore.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

Well at least you're consistent.

Consistently wrong.

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Its official


No....

Ah, so this wasn't really about discussion or asking a question - it was about giving yourself a forum to whine and rant about the ACLU. Roger.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

That's disappointing. Though it still seems that they support the second amendment, per se, just not the interpretation that I would prefer.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

If they see it as a collective and not individual right, they don't support it at all. The Supreme Court has settled that question once and for all.

Heh. My way or the highway

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

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