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Old 04-27-2009
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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He's just pissed off because I won't let him send me some stuffed animal...
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Old 04-27-2009
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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You should probably just stop talking before you make yourself look really fucking stupid.

Or I can make you look fucking stupid.

Makes no difference to me...
Go ahead...make my day!

I take it you cannot provide enough permit reason to the second amendment violaters in your county.
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Go ahead...make my day!

I take it you cannot provide enough permit reason to the second amendment violaters in your county.
I re-applied the week before last. Nothing standing between me and my carry permit except time...
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I re-applied the week before last. Nothing standing between me and my carry permit except time...
We'll see, but let us know when it actually happens! EricOKC and the others would like to know as well I guess...
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We'll see, but let us know when it actually happens! EricOKC and the others would like to know as well I guess...
Well, golly, I'd hate to keep you in suspense...
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Old 04-28-2009
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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Are we talking about pot by its definition - only 20% as strong as hash? If thats the only thing you smoke, then you are excused my friend!

I just got the impression from your first post that you were chain-smoking real hash cigarettes, and doing that will turn your brain into a major clustefuck!
The THC in hash is just as non-neurotoxic as the THC found in raw cannabis bud.

I see that you are from Europe, and I am aware that most of the hash on the street is called soapbar which can contain motor-oil and plastic. You would be considered to be lucky if you got soapbar that has 7% cannabinoids potency and much of the time the potency is much lower than that. Properly made hash should have a potency of 25%+ cannabinoids.

^If this is what you are referring to as hash than that is not an accurate portrayal of what would be available under quality controlled standards. Just like bathtub gin is not an accurate portrayal of the effects of alcohol.

Plus mankind has been using hash for millenia and now in this century we now have a problem with it?
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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The THC in hash is just as non-neurotoxic as the THC found in raw cannabis bud.

I see that you are from Europe, and I am aware that most of the hash on the street is called soapbar which can contain motor-oil and plastic. You would be considered to be lucky if you got soapbar that has 7% cannabinoids potency and much of the time the potency is much lower than that. Properly made hash should have a potency of 25%+ cannabinoids.

^If this is what you are referring to as hash than that is not an accurate portrayal of what would be available under quality controlled standards. Just like bathtub gin is not an accurate portrayal of the effects of alcohol.

Plus mankind has been using hash for millenia and now in this century we now have a problem with it?
Where did you learn all of this? Are these facts that I can quote or are you passing this information along through hearsay?
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Where did you learn all of this? Are these facts that I can quote or are you passing this information along through hearsay?
Soapbar hash is whats widely available in Europe. Mixture of pot, low quality hash, pipe scrapings, and fillers. Very very bad for you.


Hash is no different from pot, its just more concentrated. I can see it permafrying you if you smoked two full pure hash joints a day everyday for a few years. You'd be frickin retarded all the time.
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Where did you learn all of this? Are these facts that I can quote or are you passing this information along through hearsay?
The THC content of hashish usually ranges from 15–20%, and that of hash oil from 30–40%.
Inciardi, James A. (1992). The War on Drugs II. Mountain View, CA: Mayfield Publishing Company. pp. 19. ISBN 1559340169.

As for the potency for soapbar I have heard by word of mouth and not sure of who assigned the numbers. But it is not disputed that the majority of hash on the streets of Europe have adulterants, most commonly plastic.(ex. car tires)
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Propably a little bit, but you wouldnt know it if you were...

You said before that you are holding a good job despite your abuse, but dont you think you could work both harder and better if you didnt smoke that crap everyday?
And if he had no hobbies and devoted his entire life to it, he would work even better. I say we ban hobbies, force people to devote their entire lives (entirely) to a field at which they are most capable (capacity-wise), force them to go to school for that specific field, and then force them to work there until they drop dead. It'll be a very efficient society!

Or, you can recognize that people are individuals and do not live for the society, but for themselves. Obviously, you don't give a fuck about personal liberty and would throw our rights into the furnace if it meant a 0.0000000001% increase in societal efficiency.
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And if he had no hobbies and devoted his entire life to it, he would work even better. I say we ban hobbies, force people to devote their entire lives (entirely) to a field at which they are most capable (capacity-wise), force them to go to school for that specific field, and then force them to work there until they drop dead. It'll be a very efficient society!

Or, you can recognize that people are individuals and do not live for the society, but for themselves. Obviously, you don't give a fuck about personal liberty and would throw our rights into the furnace if it meant a 0.0000000001% increase in societal efficiency.
^ Which is why I cannot stand debating leftists and/or pro-business republicans on this issue. Freedom is only makes money to the pro-buisness republican, or what benefits society for the leftist. As for the moralist, their arguments always fall flat onto deaf ears anyways and they are the only people who do not realize it.
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Old 04-30-2009
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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The THC content of hashish usually ranges from 15–20%, and that of hash oil from 30–40%.
Inciardi, James A. (1992). The War on Drugs II. Mountain View, CA: Mayfield Publishing Company. pp. 19. ISBN 1559340169.

As for the potency for soapbar I have heard by word of mouth and not sure of who assigned the numbers. But it is not disputed that the majority of hash on the streets of Europe have adulterants, most commonly plastic.(ex. car tires)
Cool, thanks for the info. I learn something new every day.
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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Soapbar hash is whats widely available in Europe. Mixture of pot, low quality hash, pipe scrapings, and fillers. Very very bad for you.


Hash is no different from pot, its just more concentrated. I can see it permafrying you if you smoked two full pure hash joints a day everyday for a few years. You'd be frickin retarded all the time.
From what I heard from Europeans just heating it and not even burning it will release that ozone burning plastic smell. It would safe to say that what you are buying is melted car tires with some weed and hash mixed in.
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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From what I heard from Europeans just heating it and not even burning it will release that ozone burning plastic smell. It would safe to say that what you are buying is melted car tires with some weed and hash mixed in.
Most def. Let that be a lesson to you european smokers, grow your own! lol


I hear some dealers have been sprinkling tini tiny glass beads on weed to make it look crystally. DON"T SMOKE IT YOULL BREAK YOUR LUNGS
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Old 05-02-2009
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Re: Make an argument as to why marijuana should be illegal....

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The THC in hash is just as non-neurotoxic as the THC found in raw cannabis bud.

I see that you are from Europe, and I am aware that most of the hash on the street is called soapbar which can contain motor-oil and plastic. You would be considered to be lucky if you got soapbar that has 7% cannabinoids potency and much of the time the potency is much lower than that. Properly made hash should have a potency of 25%+ cannabinoids.

^If this is what you are referring to as hash than that is not an accurate portrayal of what would be available under quality controlled standards. Just like bathtub gin is not an accurate portrayal of the effects of alcohol.
After 6 years of smoking, I've never seen soapbar hash before. After some 'googling', It appears to me that it's mainly a UK/Ireland phenomenon? Even in Ireland, soapbar hash seems to be extincted. During vacations in Ireland, I always managed to get a hold on good hash.
The Netherlands and it's neighbours sure have good hash and weed. Trimbos (the dutch institute of mental health and addiction) tests a lot of hash and cannabis. Dutch weed (of which 80% is exported throughout Europe) contains an average of 17% THC (foreign weed-mainly marrocon: 7%) and Dutch Hash 28% THC (foreign hash: 17%).
The institute also found little evidence of adds which are bad for your health, although an occassional case happens.

I must admit I don't know nothing about the cannabis scene outside Western Europe.

It's weird that Americans think European weed and hash sucks. I thought it was the other way around. In some Dutch coffeeshops, Americans are asked to smoke outside, because they tend to vomit a lot (they underestimate the strength).
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