The drugs are often times a symptom of the depression caused by poverty.
You can think yourself right till the cows come home....but your not.

Dude...I just said that I know people who weren't in poverty and, in fact, had more money and opportunity than I did. They got hooked on drugs and ruined their lives. It's nice they you try and take something that is fact and interpret it anyway you want just because you can't handle the truth.

ahoy sir wrestlin' Fishjoel!

matey, i know alot 'o sailors who overindulged in their "vice" of choice and brought ruin and despair upon their once mighty houses. 'course that vice could be anythin'......grog, sex, nicotine, golf, meds, warcraft(yarrr!), makin' monies, really.....anythin' at all.

i think we be really talkin' 'bout two different things here, me friend, aye?

be it reasonable fer me to say, that although you can present anecdotal evidence that a certain vice caused an individual's downfall, that each person be different?

*shoots in for a double leg, secures takedown, and rides out a lay'n pray fer the vittory!*

RAWRRRR!

aye.

-MeadHallPirate

ps - i concede, of course, that doin' illegal drugs in this wonderous land 'o ours is just that; illegal.

Uh, dude, you're the one who apparently can't handle the idea that others might make decisions regarding how to live their own lives that you don't like. I wouldn't be accusing others of being unable to handle the truth if I were you.

Also, I don't know if you answered this question already:
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/1470224-post457.html
Did you?

The laugh off comment was directed at Steve who enjoys being an irritant and laughing at the people he irritates. What I meant to get across was that the drug war needs to end. Not "reformed"...end...fini...kaput.....It costs to much. It breeds corruption. It has made and supported an ever growing black market and the Gangs that run it. It is un-constitutional. It breeds contempt and hatred towards the authorities. It sends the message that you do not know what is best for you. It assumes that we are like children whom, without the government would all die naked in a wonton drug orgy.
Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot do? As long as I'm not hurting anyone, why should you care? And don't give me that "well you might hurt someone while on drugs" bullshit. cant you see you are trying to judge me for something I have not done? That is the same logic used for Bush's preemptive war. I'm not in third grade.
Furthermore, I am appalled at how the gov and private industry have began cashing in on the drug war. I do not like war profiteering on any level. And that is what is being done. It is completely immoral, completely unethical, it sets new standards in low that will permeate into every class of our society. Do you like low life scumbags who would sell your grandmother for a tampon....That's where we are headed. You have to allow your children the freedom to make their own decisions or they will never grow up into productive well rounded adults...The government treats us all like children whom cannot be trusted to make their own decisions...complete with punishments that are absurdly harsh....and for what? They don't do it because they "care" about our well being. They don't do it to cut down on traffic injuries......They do it because it make's them money. They are profiting from this drug war and pretending that it is all done for our own good. It must end.

That's the part I don't get. If he's so afraid of people, does he perhaps also want to throw all of them into padded rooms? I mean, we can't have people roaming around freely. They might get VIOLENT!

Ok, Fishdude.....they ruined "their" lives......did you catch that dude?......THEIR lives.......not yours....theirs. In a free society one should be allowed to make their own decisions about their own lives.....Why don't you mind your own business and stay out of other peoples lives? If the government put half as much time into worrying about whats wrong with the government, instead of trying to force their will on people with the barrel of a gun or the threat of prison, maybe they wouldn't be in the fucked up mess their in now. Do you see where I'm coming from fishdude because I do not see how I could possibly make this any clearer for you.

Fishdude supports the choice to lead one's life as one sees fit, just as long as fishdude agrees with the choice.

And there in lies the finale to the natural progression of this preemptive mind set......."They were going to do something about me, and I could not allow that" Like little Hitlers always trying to stay one step ahead of everyone else..."those Jews will see through my shit, I must save me from themselves".

Oh, haha. I get it. I see what you did there. You took the action of doing drugs, which is dumb and for the weak minded and criminal, and compared it to Hitler being scared of a people group. Oh...it all makes sense now. I now see where I've made the mistake and repent any and all my previous statements.

So you never drink coffee, take Advil, or use any drugs at all? Never had a sip of alcohol, have you? Or are you admitting to being "dumb," "weak minded" and/or "criminal?"Given the description you just gave, that comparison is most fitting.

So, you couldn't come up with some snappy retort to this post:
And then decided to try and negate my post that has the name "Hitler" in it.
Face it fishj, you cannot come up with any good reason why the gov should not let responsible adults act like responsible adults.

And who are you to say what is dumb or weak minded or criminal? Maybe for you it is, but you are not everyone else. so why don't you worry more about you and let everyone else worry about themselves? Just think what a better person you could become if you would do that...

That's exactly what I'm giving you. There are plenty of cases of crime and people being hurt or killed that comes about from someone that is addicted to drugs. It's a concentrated act of ignorance to think otherwise. Too bad those addicted never see the situation they are in.

So you're already breaking some laws, what laws are next that you think are irrelevant?

Face it....you're just scared of ending up on the wrong side of the law (if you haven't already).

Well, then, you better lock yourself in a padded room and throw away the key.

I could also die in a car wreck but it doesn't mean I have to live my life in fear.