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  #106 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2009
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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Absolutely.

The reach for the gun and the magazine happens at the same time. Anyone who reaches for one and then the other is a fucking idiot. Inserting the magazine and pulling back the slide isn't exactly brain surgery. It's simple.

If you can't handle it, stay away from guns, and let the adults deal with them...
I don't think they realize how long one second can be.

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I don't think they realize how long one second can be.

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That magazine wasn't in his pocket.

edit: and he didn't chamber a round. However, still very impressive.
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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That magazine wasn't in his pocket.

edit: and he didn't chamber a round. However, still very impressive.
Who carries a magazine in their pocket? There is usually a spot for them on the gun holster or a separate belt holster.
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Who carries a magazine in their pocket? There is usually a spot for them on the gun holster or a separate belt holster.
Steve does, he said he carries it in his pocket. That's what the whole debate was about.

edit: Please respond with, "oh, my bad."
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I think he just has it in there for esthetic/enhancement purposes
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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I don't think they realize how long one second can be.

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he also had his gun out and up. he wasn't going "holy shit a crack head with a knife!" draw, load, chamber.

it was just load. and it took all of one second.
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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I think he just has it in there for esthetic/enhancement purposes
lol, that's some funny stuff.
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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Steve does, he said he carries it in his pocket. That's what the whole debate was about.
Yep, back left pocket.

Unless a magazine holder is open, it would take longer to get a magazine out of that than out of a pocket...
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Old 07-23-2009
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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I haven't really read much of his post but I don't really see why you'd want guns in a bar. I think it's a poor choice. Alcohol + anything is usually poor choice. I'm a big pro-gun person but I don't think this is needed.

It isn't really about allowing people to be armed at a bar. As far as drinking and shooting, it’s likely covered by other state statutes. This is meant to afford people dining out the level of self-protection they would have while going about any other business they might be conducting. It’s an attempt to make sure there are no more Luby’s.
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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I don't think they realize how long one second can be.

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Watched the video, pistol is already out and the shooter is locked into shooting mode.I don't care how fast you can do it in a video,can you do it that fast in reality?I agree with the person that said 2-3 seconds.
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Old 07-24-2009
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Re: Guns and alcohol

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happens to us all

there is. its called the 2nd ammendment. George Washington used it to gather the local militia and put down the whiskey rebellion. that sets a precendent that has never been overturned.
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Wilder was an ingenious individual. In his early 30s, he was a nationally known expert on hydraulics and owned his own foundry in Greensburg, Ind. In the days before the Civil War, he supervised the casting of two six-pound cannons at his foundry and recruited a company of light artillery troops.

Wilder’s men ended up being mustered in as Company A of the 17th Indiana Infantry, a regiment Wilder was soon commanding.
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The army was wowed by the accuracy and fire power of the weapon. Wilder, who had vowed to arm his brigade with the best weapons available, was particularly impressed and contacted his bankers in Greensburg, Ind. The bankers agreed to buy enough Spencers to equip the brigade. Each man in the unit signed a promissory note for $35 for their rifle. Wilder co-signed all of the notes and the rifles were ordered.
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Even the Bankers weren't so bad when the glory of our republic is at stake.
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Even the Bankers weren't so bad when the glory of our republic is at stake.
Its a civil war. thats a bit different than status quo. weird shit happened during the civil war, like the potus repealing slavery in territory he had no control over (unconstitutionally overstepping his bounds too), denying habeus corpus etc etc.


and like i said, militias get outfitted DURING the time theyre used. also note that every MAN signed a note for his rifle. not uncle sam.
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Old 07-24-2009
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Re: Guns and alcohol

In Lincoln's defense, he did have a rebellion and some insurrections on his watch.

Our current elected representatives don't have that excuse.
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In Lincoln's defense, he did have a rebellion and some insurrections on his watch.

Our current elected representatives don't have that excuse.
when were we denied habeus corpus recently? i'm confused.

or are you talking about obama overstepping his bounds? cause as ridiculous as his policies are i'm not quite sure he's overstepped his authority.
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It already happened on the republican watch, with a republican doctrine, and no specific enumeration for Wars on Drugs or Terror.
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