I think it's a combination of the two.

The illegal scumbag aliens they hire should be arrested and deported...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

I've no use for any illegal alien and mention Hispanics because they're the only ones I've had contact with in large numbers.

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aye aye, lass...noted me friend!

i just found it curious that so much 'o the debate and (at times) the invective regardin' illegal aliens seems to circle 'round hispanics...heck, though they weren't part 'o me OP, they even found thar way into me thread.

in 2005, the illegal aliens whose region 'o birth and entry was europe and east asia equalled the amount from mexico, yet 'tis the mexicans who seem to exclusively receive the brunt 'o the hard words exchanged here on the good ship USPOL.
source : Center for Immigration Studies analysis for March 2005 Current Population Survey

aye.

avast ye!

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What makes them "scumbag" aliens? If you were born in a shithole with no money or means to become an american citizen, wouldn't you come here illegally?

BTW- i happen to be married to a once "illegal" Cuban citizen... I know the buttfuck of a process it takes to make them citizens... $700 for a citizenship test is like a lifetime worth of savings for some. Especially if you come from a Communist system.

The fact that you call them "scumbags" just shows your bigotry.


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Do you really think it’s accurate to compare number of illegal immigrants coming from a single country, to the combined total of two continents?!? If anything, you seem to have further demonstrated just how severe the problem is regarding illegal Mexican immigrants.

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I can actually appreciate people who value American (and Western) values enough to try to go to another country illegally. They probably have more appreciation than the self loathers the West keeps breeding.

It's not really bigotry if you say that laws should be enforced. You can say that the laws are wrong (I could side with you there), but the law is on his side.

Why exactly is getting citizenship a "buttfuck"? The fact that it's $700 for the test is either (a) easily remedied or (b) easily justified. If you haven't been in gainful employment long enough to save, then maybe you're not going to contribute.

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Hail oh buccaneer!

whilst of course i can see yer point, and i concede it to ye...i think its fair 'o me to say that the proportion 'o threads and harsh words meted out on our wondrous forum doesn't seem to reflect the statistical reality 'o the numbers i cited.

imma 'bout to leave me home fer some work and weekend festivities, so i've not time to put the lookin' glass to me eye and search the ship's log...but if ye can find me a single feisty thread in the history 'o USPOL that decries the illegal immigration from europe or east asia, i'd be curious to read it.

ayeeeee!

- MeadHallPirate

Illegal aliens are taking advantage of our policy.

These pricks steal jobs and make 10x what they would in Mexico and they only come here for that reason.

They only come here to make money, they don't come here to be "American" or embrace the American dream. The majority love Mexico and thats where their loyalty lays.

I grew up in a "barrio" that was 75%+ Mexican, I know what they think and why they come here.

Most of my friends parents growing up could barely speak English and housed "uncles" in the basement which of course were illegal alien workers who would only stay for a few months to make a few bucks and head back to Mexico.

Its ridiculous, these folks set up shop here in America and turn American towns into Mexican villages and their gangs and crime follows them.

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Sure, and I would be a scumbag if I did, and I would expect that citzens and legal immigrants would want me kicked out.

I understand why they come here. I just don't give a flying fuck...

Well, I wish they'd have found her and shipped her ass back to Havana. She didn't belong here. I don't care that you're married to her, I really don't. You married a criminal...

Hey, if they can't afford it, they can't afford it. They need to stay where the fuck they are and, if they get here, they should be shipped the fuck out...

Perhaps you prefer to characterize criminals in gowing terms, but I do not. There's no bigotry. They're scumbag illegal aliens because they're fucking criminals.

Or is it, because you've made a point of sharing that your wife was a criminal Cuban, that you feel the need to start accusing people of being bigots when all those people want is for our laws to be observed and adhered to?

Yes, it's hard to become a US citizen. It should be. If someone can't hack the requirements, though, the solution should not, and is not, to come here illegally...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

There probably aren’t any. I don’t recall that coming up. Actually, it seems your numbers are a bit off. According to that report, from 2000 to 2005, the number of illegal immigrants from East Asia, Europe, Australia, sub-Saharan Africa, Canada, and the Middle East combined almost equaled the number of illegal immigrants that came from Mexico during the same time period. In other words, we had more illegals come in from that single country, than most of the rest of the world combined. The stats illustrate why it hasn’t come up before. Were it not for that one country, the problem would be manageable. Additionally, aside from Canada (whose numbers are at the bottom of the list), there aren’t the associated problems that arise from immigration from border states. Immigrants who come here from geographically separated homelands assimilate much better. Immigrants from border states tend to restructure the culture to that of their homeland in the area surrounding the border and extending out from there depending on their population density.

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Team B is going to give you the higher quality work. The carpenters are more likey to be journeymen, so will the electricians. Then there's the roofers: a match is tough. Team B is going to be better connected if something goes wrong, or if there are other things you wish to do with the room.

It's the diffrence between Nikon and Kodak: ya get what ya pay for.

Them is some assumptions. But I think the point of the hypothetical is that they do equal work.

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You know anything about contractor work?

Illegals generally are unskilled workers and take jobs from a good American laborer/apprentice that wants to learn and in due time will become a journey man.

Hiring illegals who do labor for peanuts and then head back to Mexico while some American kid is lost is not right.

Illegals are destroying this industry.

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I've seen their "equal" work first hand.

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Lots of illegal Irish down where you are?

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