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View Poll Results: who would ye hire?
1. Team A 9 39.13%
2. Team B 14 60.87%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-28-2009
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

Obama are gonna do exactly what I have been saying should be done to prevent illegals from coming to the country, which is to simply handle out very big fines to those who employ them. They will not be able to get any jobs after that and will obviously stop coming for that purpose.

Some illegals might still come to commit crime or secretly live with relatives, but it would only be a very small fraction of the present amount.
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

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No one's really sure how many there are, but it's enough that no one could cope in Ireland if they were deported. I'll have to look that up, if you don't mind waiting.
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Illegal? Better if you're Irish -- latimes.com

The probably won't be legalised - at lest partly due a few incidents where Americans with visas were turned away from Ireland, but it's still interesting.
Well, 50000 people aren't a tiny number, but I have no doubt Ireland could cope with them. Poor and destroyed postwar Germany could cope with several millions of Germans being forcefully moved from the regions they lived in to post war Germany and they coped with it quite well. But thats probably not the point. There would be not much of a benefit for the US to take a hard stance against them. Thats my guess, so they are just keeping the status quo as it is.
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

I'm a bit late getting to this, but someone bumped it by voting so...

Team B definitely. I would never hire Englishmen.

Also, the only person who does work on my property without being insured is me. Illegals are out of the running as a result.
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Old 10-15-2009
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

The difference between Anglo-born illegal immigrants and Mexican-born illegal immigrants is pretty evident.

Most Mexican-born illegals have hopped a fence, and intend on squirreling their financial gains back to families in Mexico.

Most Anglo-born illegals are trying to build a life for themselves, and have more often than not, been a legal and documented citizen at one time. Not many of them are swimming across the Atlantic.

They also present less hostility towards the USA, and its ways of life.

Whereas, with Mexican illegals, you have this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-bCFG3j8Ps

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=26782849

Show me an example of an Irishman or Englishman, WHILE IN THE UNITED STATES, burning an American flag.

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Old 10-16-2009
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

Anyone who hires illegal aliens should be charged with treason.
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

haha of course they should, swoop.
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

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Anyone who hires illegal aliens should be charged with treason.
ahoy Swoop187!

i mourn fer Mitt Romney, me friend. i know that many 'o the folks who be social conservatives have some problems with this here fella, but it would be a shame to make'm walk the plank. whar be yer sense 'o forgiveness?

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The Boston Globe reports today that for the past decade, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) has employed a landscaping company that relies heavily on undocumented Guatemalan immigrants. The company, Community Lawn Service with a Heart, also tended to the lawn at Romney’s son’s house.

When asked by a reporter about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney said, “Aw, geez,” and walked away.
Think Progress Illegal Immigration Hardliner Mitt Romney Hires Undocumented Workers To Tend His Lawn

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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

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*MeadHallPirate takes out his crayons to make yet another poll*

mateys,

i was thinkin' that blamin' the illegal aliens fer comin' to our country be kinda like blamin' mexico fer the cannabis consumption here in america.

i wanted to put a question to all of ye;
(disclaimer - i don't know nothin' about contractin' and what the costs be, the only tools i own be a hammer and i think i have a tape measure somewhar, so please humor me fer me hypothetical)

yer addin' an addition on yer business, things be goin' well and ye needs more space on yer buildin'.

ye have two crews ye can hire. both teams will build an addition of equal quality.

one team 'o contractors has alot 'o illegal immigrants, irishmen and englishmen who're here without documentation, team "a". the cost fer the addition by this crew will be $30,000.

the other team be made up entirely 'o american citizens, team "b". the cost fer the addition by this crew will be $50,000.

who would ye hire?

aye?

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I would love to know how you came to that conclusion?
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ahoy Swoop187!

i mourn fer Mitt Romney, me friend. i know that many 'o the folks who be social conservatives have some problems with this here fella, but it would be a shame to make'm walk the plank. whar be yer sense 'o forgiveness?


Think Progress Illegal Immigration Hardliner Mitt Romney Hires Undocumented Workers To Tend His Lawn

*nods*

- MeadHallPirate
Of course most conservative politicians are all for the cheap labor illegal aliens provide.

The truth is man, Liberals want illegals for votes and conservatives want cheap labor.

Who gets fucked?

The American who wants to work. Wages are driven down and jobs are stole by illegals..

To add insult to injury these illegals go right back to Mexico where the cost of living is lower with their new found wealth and live like kings for a half decade or so before the come back to repeate the cycle all over again.

The US is nothing more then a cash cow for unskilled Mexican illegal aliens. They work here and spend the money they earn in Mexico.

Who fucking suffers? the unemployed American who had his job stolen from him. That unemployed American DOES NOT have the option to just go to another country and steal there jobs like the illegal latinos do. The American worker cant survive on 5 bucks cash under the table BUT the illegal alien who rents a room for 20 bucks a week can.

They steal jobs, drive down wages and should be deported immediately.

These illegals are fucking GREEDY and sinister...

Of course the liberals love them.
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

In a perfect world, you would see the difference, just like this poll, and could make an informed decision ; but in real life the difference in cost would be under five thousand and the cost difference would be seen by team A as profit. Companies are not allowing that much profit to stay on the table and you won't know the difference.
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Re: illegal aliens or americans?

You really want to freely deport illegals?

Declare war against Mexico and place illegal aliens under the rules of the Geneva Convention.

Illegal aliens will be treated like enemy combatants or invaders of a sovereign nation and promptly will be deported.

Of course this wont be a "real" military war but rather a war on illegal aliens.
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I would love to know how you came to that conclusion?
*rubs the sleep outta his eyes and hails Swoop187*

good morning oh bellicose Swoop187!

mate, that one be easy to explain.

cannabis, the scourge of our nation, comes in o'er the border from mexico by the busload (just like them illegal workers).

what be the reason all that herb makes its way north? its because 'o the voracious appetite the US citizen has fer marijuana (just like the voracious appetite US citizens have fer cheap, low wage labor).

as ye cited on 'nother thread, 'tis just the law 'o supply and demand workin' itself out.

blamin' mexico be turnin' a blind eye to them who be willin' to pay fer the substance, and that be true whether that substance be illegal herb or illegal immigrants.

*rests his case*

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*rubs the sleep outta his eyes and hails Swoop187*

good morning oh bellicose Swoop187!

mate, that one be easy to explain.

cannabis, the scourge of our nation, comes in o'er the border from mexico by the busload (just like them illegal workers).

what be the reason all that herb makes its way north? its because 'o the voracious appetite the US citizen has fer marijuana (just like the voracious appetite US citizens have fer cheap, low wage labor).

as ye cited on 'nother thread, 'tis just the law 'o supply and demand workin' itself out.

blamin' mexico be turnin' a blind eye to them who be willin' to pay fer the substance, and that be true whether that substance be illegal herb or illegal immigrants.

*rests his case*

- MeadHallPirate
We grow weed here too in the US.

The weed that comes out of Mexico is generally sold to other Mexicans who break the bricks down and sell it again to other Mexicans.

Weeds a very interesting drug when it comes to who is buying and who is selling.

You wont find many middle class folks smoking Mexican weed, those folks generally smoke high to mid grade bud.

In other words the poor smoke the shitty green and the middle class and rich smoke the good green that comes out of the hills of Northern California or is home grown.
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Post Re: illegal aliens or americans?

I think it's pretty obvious what I would choose! Team B for me please!

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Obama are gonna do exactly what I have been saying should be done to prevent illegals from coming to the country, which is to simply handle out very big fines to those who employ them. They will not be able to get any jobs after that and will obviously stop coming for that purpose.

Some illegals might still come to commit crime or secretly live with relatives, but it would only be a very small fraction of the present amount.
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna need to see some proof before I believe any of this!

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Anyone who hires illegal aliens should be charged with treason.
At first, I thought you were out of your fucking mind! Then, I thought about it for a minute!

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In a perfect world, you would see the difference, just like this poll, and could make an informed decision ; but in real life the difference in cost would be under five thousand and the cost difference would be seen by team A as profit. Companies are not allowing that much profit to stay on the table and you won't know the difference.
Well, I guess I AM living in a perfect world afterall! Especially since the difference in the quality of workmanship is most definitely there! I would much rather pay an extra $20,000 and get that special American quality workmanship done and have something to be proud of instead of having to have the same morons come in multiple times to do the same job! Just remember, you get what you pay for!
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