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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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Typical socialist state.

How does finger printing people help? you cant trace a bullet to a store.

The fucking state just wants to know WHO's buying bullets.

Big brother at its best.

Whats next, microchipping gun owners so the government knows where these "dangerous" people are at all times?
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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I own a gun, it wasn't difficult at all. my crazy friend is a felon, He isn't suppose to own guns, and I'd feel better knowing that he couldn't easily buy ammo if he did.
I understand your point and it's perfectly logical in many regards, it's just that some states and some areas like New York City, for example, make gun ownership extremely difficult for law abiding citizens but felons can still buy guns on the street and that doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon.

Maybe the new thumbprint for ammo law will help change that perhaps? Not sure if crooks can by ammo off the street so easily.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

Since when do hoodlums have to buy legal ammo for their illegal guns?
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

Thumb prints are required to cash checks in many places now. And here is how far and ridiculous it has gone. Bank Demands Thumbprint Before Cashing Check; Says Lack of Arms No Excuse - Lowering the Bar

I wonder why people haven't gotten indignant over thump prints before now? You put up with something in one area of life, and it will surface in another.
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Thumb prints are required to cash checks in many places now. And here is how far and ridiculous it has gone. Bank Demands Thumbprint Before Cashing Check; Says Lack of Arms No Excuse - Lowering the Bar

I wonder why people haven't gotten indignant over thump prints before now? You put up with something in one area of life, and it will surface in another.
I have tried going to banks that required this! What happened was, I told them if my ID isn't good enough, then the bank isn't worth my time or business! I turned around and went to the bank across the street!
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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This legislation won't stop your crazy friend from being able to by ammo, it merely allows law enforcement to track the sale after the fact.
ok. well then maybe you should have to show your carry permit (we discussed a few weeks ago) to buy ammo?

basically a drivers license for gun ownership. shows you have been through a background check and safety/handling competence course when you bought your gun, that your not a felon, gives you permit concealed carry in all states, and allows you to buy ammo.

what you think?

make it easier for law abiding citizens to pack heat anywhere, harder for criminals.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

i actually dont have any problem with this and if you have been to a event like Knob Creek Knob Creek Gun Range and see the availability of ammo i think its probably a great idea to have some screening or tracking measure
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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ok. well then maybe you should have to show your carry permit (we discussed a few weeks ago) to buy ammo?

basically a drivers license for gun ownership. shows you have been through a background check and safety/handling competence course when you bought your gun, that your not a felon, gives you permit concealed carry in all states, and allows you to buy ammo.

what you think?

make it easier for law abiding citizens to pack heat anywhere, harder for criminals.

Better; but at this point you don't need to have carry permit to buy a handgun, only to carry a concealed handgun. I don't see your plan being implemented anytime soon.
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Better; but at this point you don't need to have carry permit to buy a handgun, only to carry a concealed handgun.
What I mean is a concealed carry permit that is as easy to get as (or comes with) a gun, good in all states.

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I don't see your plan being implemented anytime soon.
Nor I.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

This is nothing new for my state. To own ANY firearm, you must obtain a specific license (ranging from an FID to an unrestricted Class A. LTC), and the process includes being fingerprinted, photographed, produce references, ect. In fact, my Class A has a copy of my thumbprint scan right on it, as well as my picture, name, and other info.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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Is this really a big deal?

In California, you need to have your fingerprints taken in order to acquire a driver's license anyways.

You need to give personal information to buy a firearm, so it only makes sense you must verify that information in order to purchase ammunition.
Simple question: Would you like having to give your fingerprints to buy a book, go to church or vote?
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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Simple question: Would you like having to give your fingerprints to buy a book, go to church or vote?

not me but I would favro inking a voter's thumb after they have voted.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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not me but I would favro inking a voter's thumb after they have voted.
I don't have a problem with that at all.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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not me but I would favro inking a voter's thumb after they have voted.
Like the Iraqis when they vote.
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Re: CA: thumbprints and personal info needed in 2011 to buy ammo.

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This is nothing new for my state. To own ANY firearm, you must obtain a specific license (ranging from an FID to an unrestricted Class A. LTC), and the process includes being fingerprinted, photographed, produce references, ect. In fact, my Class A has a copy of my thumbprint scan right on it, as well as my picture, name, and other info.
In your state is concealed carry permit readily available to owners or is a need (or professional use) required to be shown?
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