Would anyone here who supports gun control have any problem with their pro-gun neighbors putting this sign up on their front lawn:

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"It's a good feeling to shoot a bad guy. Something you democrats would never understand. Americans are homesteaders, we want a safe home, keep the money we make, and shoot bad guys!"

----Denny Crane

The bad guys are often looking for guns... this looks like an invitation to steal his guns. I would never add that I have guns in my house. just plain stupid.

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The bush administration and bank lobbyists proudly killing our economic system - 2003.

All kidding aside, CA residents must enjoy state oppression, they seem to have plenty of it and sign in plenty more on an annual basis.

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Want government run healthcare? Join the military.

its like women who stay in abusive relationships because "he only hits me because he loves me". all that repression an abuse just makes em feel so safe an loved

Repressive and abusive is definetly how I'd describe Republicans. Just look at how they sign laws that force undue burden upon law abiding citizens.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

laws supported by the legislature, authored by the legislature, and PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE.


don't be a dick dude.

Hey hypocrite, check this out...

Governor capable of using veto

You're just a right wing partisan who can't grasp the fact that if the Republican governor of California didn't want the residents to live under such oppresive laws he could have vetoed the legislation. Clearly you are not a person who thinks people should be held accountable.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

I'm Not a republican there genius. Don't start sucking your own dick just yet, to quote Mr. Wolf.

I never said he wasn't capable of using his veto power. Just that he probably didn't feel like getting his veto shoved up his ass by the legislature of liberals who passed the bill in the first place.

The amiano bill hardly had the support that this one did.

Can you show me the post where I called you a Republican? I'm pretty sure I called you a right-wing partisan, adding to that you're a sycophantic apologist.

Had Arnold vetoed the bill and had his veto overridden then he could have claimed that he was trying to stop the loony left but there just aren't enough Republicans in the legislature to put a stop to the leftist agenda. This would have rallied the righties and enthused the Republicans in the state. Instead this is just more proof that it's the Republicans who need to be out of power to punish them for the ineffective leadership and complete incompetence.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

This is another gun store welfare bill.

there! you said it again! Partisan is the key word in both instances. To be a partisan, i'd have to be a member of that party. And i'm also not right wing. Moderate over here *waves*.
Youre a loony. And don't call me sycophantic dude it really makes you resemble a horse's ass

I tend to use the word partisan in looser terms.. someone who leans heavily to the left or right, but not necessarily a member of any party. Based on what I've read from you, I wouldn't call you a partisan, FWIW.

Aww thanks dude, thats like one of the nicer things i think youve said to me

What part of "A well-regulated militia being necessary..." do YOU not understand? It's clearly meant to to be seen as a precondition, that's why it was written first, and note the world is "being", not, "since a militia might be required" and certainly not "so our citizens can murder us if they should disagree with our policies sufficiently"

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It is not a precondition, it is a justification. The "militia" was all able bodied men at the time. The right to keep and bear arms, was the right "of the people". One of the oldest and most established rules of legal interpretation at the time (of which the drafters were well aware) was that unless otherwise indicated, the same words appearing repeatedly in the same legal text always bear the same meaning. "the people" in the Second Amendment means exactly what it means everywhere else it appears. In otherwords, securing the right of the people to keep and bear arms (which by the language is recognized to all ready exist, and was a well established individual right of Englishman) was seen as a precondition for ensuring a well regulated militia.

The phrase "well regulated" was inserted so as not to appear to undercut the clear division of authority for training and creating uniform standards for the militia when it was called forth.

Finally, since you seem oblivious to history, the militia (aka all able bodied men) were seen NOT just as neccesary to the security of a free state from EXTERNAL threats, but also to the INTERNAL threat of despotism (you may recall that the same people who wrote, and ratified these words had just revolted against THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT).

As for it coming first, that does not indicate priority by any grammatical standard. What DOES connotate emphasis and priority grammatically is the fact that the initial phrase is what one who is educated in the language would refer to as a dependent clause, followed by an independent clause. Guess which one can stand on its own, independent of the other.

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"It's a good feeling to shoot a bad guy. Something you democrats would never understand. Americans are homesteaders, we want a safe home, keep the money we make, and shoot bad guys!"

----Denny Crane