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The reason "nothing" is done about all the crime involving firearms is because what liberal morons WANT done about crime involving firearms does nothing to actually address the problem. That is the one basic, data-supported fact liberals will never, ever admit to. Gun control laws DO NOT FUCKING WORK!!!! Liberal brain dead fuckups have been hammering firearms rights for 8 decades, and all those laws have done is take away the rights of those who obey the law. Liberals are so used to the lies told them by their political masters they cannot grasp the idea that, like the Patriot Act, gun control laws are NOT about protecting the people (because they don't as every crime rate statistic available clearly points out), but rather about securing more and more power for the government. The government, along with their high finance, money laundering croneys don't give a ripe pig fart about the people. Obama does not give a ripe pig fart about the People. Romney does not give a ripe pig fart about the People. Nor did BUsh, nor does Kerry, nor does either Clinton, Carter, Reagan, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. They want the glory of controlling the most powerful nation in the world. And they pursue more and more control over this nation on a daily basis.
And to whomever complained they did not see any protesting over the Patriot Act, even on political discussion sites like this, all I can say to that is they must have been living in a remote cave in inner Mongolia.
As pointed out before, their crime rates were already lower than the U.S. before they implemented their draconian, confiscatory laws. Also, as pointed out before, Japan is currently experiencing increased firearms related crimes. How do you explain that when they have already done what you are calling for in the U.S.?
Anti-gun idiots are CONTINUALLY pointing out lower crime rates in countries with strict gun control. Funny that you ignore other countries (Mexico, anyone?) with strict gun control laws and high crime rates, other countries with lax gun control laws and low crime rates, etc. Put it all into a scatter chart and perform an HONEST statistical analysis, and the correlation between gun control laws and firearms related crimes in less than 0.65. In the world of statistics, that means NO APPARENT CORRELATION EXISTS.
But, let's look at Japan again. By your own admission, due to fewer restraints on the actions of law enforcement, they prosecute a far greater percentage of crimes than we manage to do. Additionally, their sentencing is liable to be far harsher (with the exception of a lack of death penalty) than our CJ system hands down, thus keeping their criminals in prison longer. Their prisons are not exactly nice places to visit, either. No free pool halls, bowling alleys, or cable TVs to be found.
Thing is, just MAYBE crime rates are more associated with the way criminals are prosecuted, than having to do with the availability of firearms. Just MAYBE. But, you see, actually finding and addressing the REAL causes of high crime rates (and not just those involving firearms) in the U.S is too complex to run a political campaign on. But it is so EASY to demonize those nasty GUNS that crazy people like to keep around.
I oppose both all gun control laws which place any limitation on the rights of lawful citizens AND the Patriot Act. I also oppose the new FISA laws that were instituted under Bush and strengthened under Obama. I also oppose the new language added to this session's NDAA. And Obamacare, and the SCOTUS decision that says it is OK to tax the people into submitting to federal laws that otherwise have no constitutional authority.
Of course, I am equally confused by those who are all bothered by the Patriot Act and FISA, while supporting strict(er) gun control laws, supporting (or at least not criticizing) Obama's signing of the 2012 NDAA, and just okee-dokee the idea that the federal government can force the People to purchase privately offered services or penalty-tax them for not doing so. Again, the only conclusion that comes close to explaining it is they are democrats first and foremost, as mindlessly obedient to their political masters as the Bushites they love to criticize for being blindly partisan.
BTW: your assessment "by-and-large" is, in my experience, not exactly accurate. Large numbers (I'd say even a majority) of those who choose to label themselves conservative have HUGE problems with many of the provisions in the Patriot Act, with the institution of draconian security at airports, and a whole host of other government usurpations that have occurred under both parties in response to the attacks of 9-11-01.
OTOH, partisan republicans have little problem ingesting elephant shit, just as partisan democrats thrive politically on a steady diet of donkey shit. Perhaps it is partisanship that causes dogmatic hypocrisy?
Last edited by Good Luck; 08-04-2012 at 10:00 PM.
i was right when i said their was not nearly 12,000 murders. also if you bother to actaully read the fbi stats you wouls see that the guardian a paper that is anti gun liked when they say it was all murder the forgot this little part
This section also includes information about justifiable homicide—certain willful killings that must be reported as justifiable or excusable. In the UCR Program, justifiable homicide is defined as and limited to:
■The killing of a felon by a peace officer in the line of duty.
■The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private citizen.
another thing that is also missing in this is self defense use why do anti gun people ignore that guns are used tens of thousands of times a year in self defense