Thread: 2011 FBI crime data

Originally Posted by MattInFla

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 11

Twice as many people were beaten to death with hands and feet than were killed with rifles.

So, why are we rushing to ban scary looking rifles, again?

Unfortunately I think it has a good chance this time. Both sides are talking about it.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

So, why are we rushing to ban scary looking rifles, again?

Because you never waste a crisis... if you are a lib that is. Politicize, Politicize, Politicize...

But Matt makes a good point, why the guns? Presumably most of these guns needed a hand to hold or finger to pull the trigger (or a mythical unicorn in the case of the guns and magical 300 ft armor piercing bullets that John Drake was familiar with), so why not kill 2 birds with one stone and just ban hands and feet and resolve the gun issue?

Oh crap, i said "Kill"...scratch that, we'll have to think of something new.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...-data-table-11

Twice as many people were beaten to death with hands and feet than were killed with rifles.

So, why are we rushing to ban scary looking rifles, again?

That's easy. Because it isn't about guns or saving the children or protecting people who die in gun violence.

It's about power, plain and simple.

because banning guns is a liberals wet dream

Originally Posted by MattInFla

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...-data-table-11

Twice as many people were beaten to death with hands and feet than were killed with rifles.

So, why are we rushing to ban scary looking rifles, again?

Another interesting point; if you look at Table 1 and look at the 20 year trend in violent crime rates, not only has the actual number of violent crimes gone down, but the rate itself has decreased by 50%. The murder rate has also decreased by just shy of 50%.

Interesting to compare the violent crime rate for 2011 here in the US to that in, say, England and Wales for 2011. Ours was 386.3, theirs was 1361. Their murder rate was 1.3, whereas ours is 4.7. Are we, the United States, really less safe and more violent than other nations around the world?

BTW, I got the England and Wales numbers from the UK's Home Office: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publica...arch/hosb0112/

Originally Posted by ThorHammer

Another interesting point; if you look at Table 1 and look at the 20 year trend in violent crime rates, not only has the actual number of violent crimes gone down, but the rate itself has decreased by 50%. The murder rate has also decreased by just shy of 50%.

Interesting to compare the violent crime rate for 2011 here in the US to that in, say, England and Wales for 2011. Ours was 386.3, theirs was 1361. Their murder rate was 1.3, whereas ours is 4.7. Are we, the United States, really less safe and more violent than other nations around the world?

BTW, I got the England and Wales numbers from the UK's Home Office: Crime statistics | Home Office

[conspiracy]
Since the Castle Laws are being passed by many states, 24 Fully and another 16 partially, the government has to do something to make people afraid of guns again. They create these people to go in and commit mass murder to stir everyone up like a False Flag event and then push laws to control and disarm the populace as much as possible. With the trend of crime going down in the wake of the laws allowing citizens to be armed and use them anywhere to protect themselves the government realizes it needs fear to create more control.
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How many humans can be brutally slaughtered in a theater, shopping mall or school without a chance of escape or retaliation in an attack by hands and/or feet?

There is no sin except stupidity.
Oscar Wilde

When the numbers don't tell you what you want them to, deflect, deflect, deflect.

Originally Posted by Bfgrn

How many humans can be brutally slaughtered in a theater, shopping mall or school without a chance of escape or retaliation in an attack by hands and/or feet?

There is no sin except stupidity.
Oscar Wilde

Does it make a lot of difference to you if you are murdered by yourself or along side a group of others?

Originally Posted by OldmanDan

Does it make a lot of difference to you if you are murdered by yourself or along side a group of others?

Misery loves company, if I am going to be murdered by some madman I want a lot of people to share that misery with.

:P

Originally Posted by Bfgrn

How many humans can be brutally slaughtered in a theater, shopping mall or school without a chance of escape or retaliation in an attack by hands and/or feet?

There is no sin except stupidity.
Oscar Wilde

Taken nationwide, over a year, there were far more people murdered with hands and feet than with rifles of all sorts.

Sorry that basic data exposes your sin, Bfgrn.

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