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    Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    or is it just Democrats?

    Chicago Police Chief says firearms owners are corrupt and endanger public safety

    The Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA), thinks Chicago's embattled police superintendent dug himself deeper into a pit of controversy today by claiming that lawful firearm owners are agents of political corruption. Appearing on a Chicago Sunday morning talk show, superintendent Garry McCarthy expressed his conviction that firearm owners who lobby their elected representatives or who donate money to political campaigns are engaged in corruption that endangers public safety. McCarthy went on to express his belief that judges and legislators should rely on public opinion polls when interpreting our Constitution.
    Chicago Police Chief says firearms owners are corrupt and endanger public safety - Illinois Review
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    I wonder exactly how many law abiding gun owners are responsible for shooting deaths in America? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, uh zero. If anybody is corrupt in Chicago its their elected officials far more so than law abiding gun owners.
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    That will shut up those who don't agree with him politically.
    If somebody were to put the Constitution on a teleprompter, would 0bama read it?

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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Chicago makes it so difficult for good people to own guns that he is probably right. The majority are corrupt. Including the police.
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Gee, and he seemed so rational when Rahm Emanuel appointed him to the post.

    Hard to envision an Emanuel appointee making such a whacked-out statement, isn't it.
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldmanDan View Post
    or is it just Democrats?

    Chicago Police Chief says firearms owners are corrupt and endanger public safety

    Chicago Police Chief says firearms owners are corrupt and endanger public safety - Illinois Review
    Chicago? How about the whole damned state? Remember, this is the same state that prohibits you from stopping police entering your home, even if it is an illegal entry. You also are not allowed to film police officers in public locations.
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Chicago? How about the whole damned state? Remember, this is the same state that prohibits you from stopping police entering your home, even if it is an illegal entry. You also are not allowed to film police officers in public locations.
    Well, uh, gee: That seems a bit harsh.

    We defeated the hand-gun ban, didn't we?

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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    How can you even ask if everyone in Chicago is crazy?!? Rahm obviously has Obama’s laser-like focus pointed at the real problem. What better use of Chicago Police and the Justice system could there be?;


    UIC: Staffer on leave after bringing handgun to campus


    A University of Illinois at Chicago staffer has been placed on administrative leave after she brought a legally purchased handgun to work because she didn't want to leave it at home while her house was being renovated, a UIC spokesman said.

    A judge set bail at $25,000 Wednesday for Kathleen Loviscek, 55, according to the Cook County sheriff's office. She is expected in court again on Feb. 19.

    Loviscek, of Westmont, was charged with unlawful use of a weapon, a felony, said UIC spokesman Bill Burton.

    “There was no apparent intent or threat,’’ Burton said. “It was never brandished nor was it loaded.’’

    Loviscek, an information specialist who works in research administration, was placed on paid administrative leave indefinitely, Burton said.

    The employee at a UIC building near Polk and Wood streets brought the gun to work Tuesday, and another employee saw it and called police, said Mark Rosati, another UIC spokesman. Initial reports incorrectly said the employee with the gun was a man.

    Police were called at 4:30 p.m., and determined that the employee had recently purchased the handgun, and had brought it -- unloaded, and in a case -- to work because the staffer did not want to leave it at home while her home was undergoing remodeling, according to Rosati. The employee had a valid Illinois firearm owner's identification card, Rosati said.

    A nearby hospital sent out an alert to employees saying that there was a standoff involving police at the UIC building, but Chicago police and Rosati said no standoff occurred.
    UIC: Staffer on leave after bringing handgun to campus - Chicago Tribune
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    How's this for intrusive? Yet another attempt of rearending the Constitution.

    Misstep in gun bill could defeat the effort | Local News | The Seattle Times
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Good1 View Post
    Well, uh, gee: That seems a bit harsh.

    We defeated the hand-gun ban, didn't we?

    But you had to defeat something that should never have been brought up in the first place. Illinois might be the worse state for infringement upon the rights of it's citizens.
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    Loviscek, an information specialist who works in research administration, was placed on paid administrative leave indefinitely, Burton said.
    How can I get a deal like this???
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    I like how the OP cites a source that refers to itself as "crossroads of the conservative community". And people talk about media bias.

    Yeah, I am sure they are not quoting Garry McCarthy out of context.

    Here's another take on Garry McCarthy's views of guns:

    Copyright © 2013 NPR. For personal, noncommercial use only. See Terms of Use. For other uses, prior permission required.
    ROBERT SIEGEL, HOST:
    Garry McCarthy, the police superintendent of Chicago, favors tougher gun laws. The murder rate rose there last year even as it fell in New York. There were 506 murders in Chicago. New York had 414 with a population roughly three times the size. Superintendent McCarthy says he has a plan to fight gun violence in Chicago. It includes some familiar ideas: banning assault weapons and large capacity magazines, universal background checks as well as three-year mandatory, minimum sentences for illegal gun possession. But he told me, the one thing that would make the most difference, not only in Chicago but in the entire country, is requiring that the government be notified any time a gun is lost, stolen or transferred.
    SUPERINTENDENT GARRY MCCARTHY: Because in the state of Illinois, somebody who is a legal purchaser of a firearm can go into any gun shop with their FOID card, buy firearms, walk out the door, hand them to whoever they want. There's absolutely no accountability for what happens to that gun. Now, what's the result of that? We had an officer who was shot back in March by the name of Del Pearson. He almost died. He lost three-quarters of the blood in his body. Fortunately, he survived. The gun that was used to shoot Del Pearson, there's one recorded transaction on that firearm. It was bought in Blue Island, Illinois, in 1972 by a 52-year-old woman who died in Little Rock, Arkansas, in 2006. Absolutely no record of that firearm since 1972. Where has that gun been? Was it lost? Was it stolen? Was it a store purchase? We'll never know.
    SIEGEL: If somebody purchased a gun and did not report it lost or stolen and that gun then were used in a crime, should the person who owned it be held liable in some way for the use of that gun?
    MCCARTHY: You know, I guess, you're posing a question that says, should I be accountable for the guns that I buy?
    SIEGEL: Mm-hmm. Yes.
    MCCARTHY: I would say yes, because it's pretty significant to lose a firearm that can cause the death of another. And the fact is the legal gun owner, the person who is not engaged in straw purchasing, will have an affirmative defense, and at the same time, there will not be a pattern where this person has purchased eight guns over five years and lost all five of them or eight of them.
    Right now, when we recover a gun at the scene of a crime and I go back to you and I say: Robert, we just recovered your gun. And you say: Oh, thank you. I lost that. And that's the end of the story. That's unconscionable.
    SIEGEL: Are law-abiding gun owners in Chicago part of the solution to law enforcement or part of the problem that you face?
    MCCARTHY: I think, you know, the - I'm not ready to make a judgment on that because I support the Second Amendment. But what I am willing to say is the fact that reasonability in these gun laws is recognized by reasonable people, many of whom are gun owners. And if there were no special interests involved in this and it was put to a popular vote in this country today, I believe all of these measures would pass. They would pass muster because they're practical.
    It's not saying you can't own a gun. It's saying that when you own a gun, there's accountability, and there's responsibility there. And at the same time, when you're not allowed to have a gun and you're illegally in possession of that firearm, there's a certainty of punishment, which is going to have an effect on crime rates.

    Chicago Police Superintendent: Gun Laws Play Huge Role In Lowering Gun Deaths : NPR

    If you don't live in Chicago, what business is it of your's what Chicago authorities try to do about their crime rate?
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jihad4Beer View Post
    If you don't live in Chicago, what business is it of your's what Chicago authorities try to do about their crime rate?
    Because 2A rights are not just a state or city issue. You have to fight it at every level because any ground that the anti-2A crowd gains and holds in one area will be precedent to spread the same policies everywhere else in the country.

    It's not like we are talking about how they spend their money. I don't care how they spend their money, as long as the rest of the country isn't asked to bail them out if they screw up too badly.
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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Promptly serving warrants and speedy trials might serve to curb violence. Get thugs off the street.

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    Re: Is Everyone in Chicago Crazy?

    Quote Originally Posted by JDJarvis View Post
    Promptly serving warrants and speedy trials might serve to curb violence. Get thugs off the street.
    Or, the cheaper way of drying up their money supply and the major driving factor of their crimes by legalizing drugs.
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