We're different yes, but not THAT different. America is unique but that just means we're going to have a unique UHC system, not that we won't have one at all

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Thank you

That was a very nice thing to say

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ahem... "unique". Yeah, I guess I'll buy that.

Wrong again. I posted a reply two damn days ago.

I hit 50 two years ago and decided I wanted to retire - so I did. I know about work wise guy. Now, though, I just do what I want: every night is Friday night, and every day is Sunday.

Nothing to say again huh? Thought so. Just like your type.

Uhh, no, you clearly have no idea what I'm talking about and obviously lack the capacity to defend your emotional outbursts that you refer to as points of some sort. I've noriced also that your cumpulsion is to be nasty when you're gettin your head handed to you with your own obtuse rhetoric. So, then by this behavior you admit that you haven't a clue: you know that don't you.

Very childish, also very typical of your type.

You and mudwhislte - what a team.

Juuust checking

Dude, thinking I'm "conservative" is fucking stupid.

You've not handed my head to me. You're nowhere good enough.

I responded to your post when it said "Posted 1 day ago". And that was just a few hours ago.

So, stop whining, go find a job (my neighbor got shit-canned from his, and now he says he's "retired", too), and wrap your head around the fact that someone disagreeing with you does not constitute an "emotional outburst".

Yours is a childish, immature reaction if I've ever seen one...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

Well, so now you call me a liar too. Hmmm.

Yep - you and mudwhistle

Kudos to you Steve, for accepting John Drake's point here.

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Guess who?

Technically I drank a lot last night, so I think covers any mention of official poverty, even though I didnt see it till now. I won 80k in fake money at craps too!

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Please, drop the dramatics. If I'd wanted to call you one, I would've.

The fact of the matter is that I didn't.

So, again, please stop your incessant whining...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

So Steve, is your only objection now just that you dont want to pay for the bum down the street?

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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Guess who?

I make a motion for an expanded PHS that includes veterans affairs. PHS could have a network of fifty one or more research hospitals, ensuring at least one in every state.

Having, potentially, state-of-the-art research facilities in every state would require labor and the jobs associated with labor.

Such a system would also be ideally suited to handle future health care crises in a much more effective manner, while lowering some costs to the private sector.

Adding research capability in every state could provide an impetus for better products at lower cost.

I don't remember who pooh poohed the idea that unions would be exempt but more smoke over that fire...


Unions’ Health Benefits May Avoid Tax Under Proposal

The U.S. Senate proposal to impose taxes for the first time on “gold-plated” health plans may bypass generous employee benefits negotiated by unions.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, the chief congressional advocate of taxing some employer-provided benefits to help pay for an overhaul of the U.S. health system, says any change should exempt perks secured in existing collective- bargaining agreements, which can be in place for as long as five years.

The exception, which could make the proposal more politically palatable to Democrats from heavily unionized states such as Michigan, is adding controversy to an already contentious debate. It would shield the 12.4 percent of American workers who belong to unions from being taxed while exposing some other middle-income workers to the levy.

Unions? Health Benefits May Avoid Tax Under Proposal (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

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Of course unions will be exempt. They've invested their share in lobbyists, they deserve their slice 'o the pie.

What would be wrong with extending only catastrophic coverage and eliminating official poverty, as an opportunity cost?

And legal "professionals."

Let's let them "fix it."


Good idea

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