So if this wonderful plan that they want to force on the United States is going to be the best thing that ever happened, why should Congress the ones that are writing it being exempt from it. This is just like Social Security, since they are not part of it they will now worry about making it right.

Congress exempt from the Affordable Health Choices Act | Independence Institute: Patient Power

ask Dodd......

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The plan is not being "forced" on the United States. Much to the contrary...very few people will actually be eligable to choose this plan. Yes, you'll pay for it somehow, but it won't replace the plan you have...probably even if you wanted it to.

I think "exempt" is the wrong term. I think "don't qualify" is the correct term. The mandate applies to the uninsured and gov't employees are already insured. Pretty much anyone that has insurance coverage today will not qualify for the "government option".

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Last version I saw had the language that made it impossible for private companies to stay in business. After the bill passes the private companies would not be able to sign up new members, ie they go out of business fast.

While it may not be forced on us today, what about 4 years from now?

To bring the Hoover dam down all that is needed is a CRACK in the base. And that same thought could go to the health system in this country.

Back to the question ... if this idea is so GREAT, then why is congress not going to join in? that is the question that we need to be asking for the next 30 days when the reps and senators are home, and not let them side step, but hold it in front till they ANSWER it!!!

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New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

bho promised that everyone would have the same care he got as a (part time) senator

whoops....

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Well, sort of. You get to keep your plan, but if for any reason you lose your plan, your sole option is the "public option" plan, since no new policies can be written by the existing insurers once the "public option" is available.

I think "exempt" describes it perfectly.

Let's say it is 2011, and you change jobs. You have to enroll in the "public option" plan.

Unless your new job is Congressmember - then you're exempt from the "public option" mandate and get to enroll in the plan that covers Congress.

Matt

That is my understanding. "Option"? Not quite the right word.

If we think healthcare is expensive and out of control now, just wait and see how much the 'free' 'option' is going to cost us!

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Great Quotes from Great Americans:

"With regard to the words 'general welfare', I have always regarded them as qualified by the details of the powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphisis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."James Madison, Father of the Constitution

the fact that this whole mess is so spinnable and both sides are spinning the fuck out of it, shows that it is a goat fuck of a bill and shouldn't be passed

Yeah. It's being "mandated". That's different.

I have said it before and I will say it again;

Term Limits--NOW!

The more these bozos isolate themselves from the consequences of their actions, the less accountable they are to the American people.

Because congress has a better health care plan. Not sure why they cant just buy private insurance like everyone else, though. We pay them enough.

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-Thomas Jefferson

Again I will remind you that there are term limits in place.

Every 2 years EVERY seat in the House is OPEN

Every 2 years 1/3 of Senate Seats are OPEN

We the people NEED to VOTE new people in and stop taking their(our) money in sending them back time and time again..

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New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

How would this make them more accountable? Seems they'd be less and less accountable the closer they got to the limit, and they wouldn't be accountable at all in their last term.

If you have a guy who's doing a good job and just getting better with experience, (which is the normal way of things, after all) then why does automatically firing him after a set number of years necessarily make things better?

You can't just arbitrarily make people retire at a certain age any more, why do you think age discrimination will somehow reform politics?

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That does seem one way of making it so it won't compete private plans out of existence, like all the conservatives say it would.

I feel like slapping my head for not thinking of that, but then all these brilliant conservatives didn't think of it either, so I feel a little better

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