With the insurance lobby predicting extremely high health costs, the public option is a must.

So you think that China will be willing to pay your inceaased premiums forever ?

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What do you propose to ensure that the average American can afford health care?

The "average American" already can and does have affordable health care, that they are quite satisfied with. I suspect what you really intended to ask is how would we ensure that EVERY American can have "affordable" health care. And that begs the question, affordable for WHO, them, or the society as a whole?

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Since the root of the issue is healthcare COSTS, wouldn't it seem to make more sense to focus on getting COSTS under control??


(and THEN address the topic of expanding coverage....??)



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Why do people think that the only way to lower health care costs is to get a "public option"? They seem to imply that it's either a "public option" or health care costs go up and there is no other choice. It looks like a big false alternative fallacy to me.

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what have you proposed that would do as much ?

You dont think the "public" option (actually government) would be magically cheaper do you ?

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one would thnk...

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That's why this whole thing is a fiasco. Health insurance has nothing to do with costs since health insurance companies don't charge one dime for healthcare.

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Still sore about the war of northern aggression.

I think you missed the part about high costs being caused BY a public option.

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higher costs come from new mandates mainly. every policy still has to pay for them. somehow. only difference is tat government can make the taxpayers do it (though prezbo said he would not sign that). and my taxpayers I mean China.

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Ayn Rand

They are predicting extremely high health care costs because of the Baucus Bill going through the Senate right now. If it is passes, that is what will cause the high costs.

Frankly, I think this is by design, so that in ten years people will be screaming for publicly funded health care after the government has made it too expensive for anyone to afford.

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trouble is, they cant afford it either.

and when rationng can no longer be used to keep costs down, they just start droppig things altogether. And the death panels form and... you're heard al lthis before.

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Ayn Rand

How will a public option lower health care costs?

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It won't. If it would, the democrats would have no problem getting it passed. Only in Washington can something that will add trillions of dollars to the projected Federal budget, with the only supposed deficit reduction coming entirely from increased taxes can it be called "savings"

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