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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
As more supporting evidence, here is a veto message by President Buchanan when he rejected Congresses attempt to dispose of public lands to people and states for the purposes of homesteading and other state uses. Today we do that with various pork projects.
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
At least the war on poverty is aimed at improving the lives of citizens. There is some societal good involved there. That cannot be said of the other two.
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
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Raising money for the general welfare is a specifically enumerated reason for the power to tax. |
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
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Providing for the common Defense is specifically enumerated while providing for the common Offense or general Warfare is not. We should not have any Wars on abstractions as they do not provide for the common defense or general welfare of the republic. Last edited by danielpalos; 11-10-2009 at 08:10 AM. |
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
It is only a warfare-state that would have a "war" on poverty. A welfare-state would have simply complied with existing federal doctrine and state laws to accomplish the same thing, but in a much more market friendly manner.
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
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It is possible our entire government could take on a socialist demeanor if in its actions it did not conflict with the "bill of rights". Madison was right to fear the strength of Atticle 1 section 8 item 1 and his fear meant he recognized it to be a legitimate avenue of incredible power to legislate control. However others felt it necessary to be in position to change the government of a purely Capitalistic nature if called for he and under the methods we chose to be governed signed off on the constitution.
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
BTW, just for the record, I am not saying I neccesarily disagree with the notion that many of our drug laws and enforcement activities at the Federal level are not provided for under the scope of the original understanding of the Constitution. Nor am I particularly passionate about anti-drug laws (except for selling to minors which I think should be a life in prison, NO possibility of parole offense first time). However, never cease to be amused by lefties who attack the propriety and/or constitutionality of our federal drug laws without realizing that the exact same reasoning would apply to 90% of what they DO support the Federal Government to do.
If we apply a more restrictive interpretation of the Commerce Clause to negate federal drug laws, we must also apply that same standard to such wonderfully extra-constitutional things as the federal minimum wage.
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Re: Sen. Burris Cites Unwritten Constitutional 'Health' Provision to Justify Forcing
Alcohol is both legal and socially acceptable; it also does more "slaughtering" of our citizens on a yearly basis than did the "terrorists".
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The Constitutional question is about States' rights, privileges, and immunities. The repeal of Prohibition clearly repealed the only delegated power to Prohibit forms of Commerce (i.e. Alcohol and its use as a powerful mood altering drug). Regulating commerce should require a tax to defray that expense and form of market based metric. Last edited by danielpalos; 11-10-2009 at 09:16 AM. |
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Using your obscenely stretched definition above, "weights and measures" could be applied to anything from the content of your speech to the property you own to who you can marry. Fortunately, nobody else seems to share your warped definition. Matt |
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