I thought the go to jail option was killed for good but looks like it's back.

PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail

If this is not a good reason to defeat this HeathScare bill, I don't know what is.

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"Democracy passes into despotism." - Plato

Come on Jo get with the plan - either way they can count you as having government healthcare.

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The government cannot give without first taking.

I cant afford a 15k policy, better lock me up too.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

This is the reason why the townhallers and what-not made such a stink about our congress critters, not being in a rush and taking the time to read the bill because there might be landmines like this.

God know what other surprises await the unsuspecting American Sheeople.

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"Democracy passes into despotism." - Plato

Thats change you can believe in.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

So much for a public "option"

This regime is in power through their lies, and only through lying… no American voter would vote for anyone that dared to run on anything close to what these people are doing… and if anyone on this planet, or any other planet, needed more truth… this ONE clause tucked away in just one bill should be more than enough to prove it.

Now this is the kind of shit where I can ardently get behind the people who don't want this kind of healthcare reform.

How about we don't mandate people buy coverage, how about we mandate insurance companies offer insurance without consideration of pre-existing conditions, and if they discriminate based upon pre-existing conditions we send their entire top 3 levels of executive management (including the board of directors) to prison for 5 years? Thats the kind of insurance reform I could also get behind.

Not sure if this part of it is true, but I hear that the bill in it's current form still won't cover 2/3 of the uninsured? - WTF!

Wasn't that the main reason for passing "universal heath care."

Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong.

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"Democracy passes into despotism." - Plato

JoMe: yes, you’re correct about 2/3 of those not insured now still won’t be after this POS becomes law.

But that was never the point: the only point of all this is control. Nothing more.

Control over 15% of the economy
Control over the people.

This is how it works… they want nothing less than total control.

The DHS called. Said the horse is out of the barn.

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All things serve The Beam

Please look up insurance in the dictionary. Insurance is to cover the cost of possible future loss. Health insurance's purpose is not to provide health care, but to pay for it. The next time you get a dent in your car, try switching auto insurance companies before you file a claim. Then try to get your new company to cover your preexisting dent.
I can't afford to both eat AND pay 15 grand for health insurance. I guess I'm going to jail too.
If this shit passes, Nancy will have a revolution on her hands which she will loose.She forgets that her opposition clings to God and guns.

I can't imagine how she could forget. Obama made a point to remind her constituents of it a while back.

If I remember correctly, they where amused.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

Lets hope the breaking point is near and the American sheeople snap and take action.
We done this to our selves and it will take us to fix it...one way or another.
Question is....where is that breaking point?

I hope like hell it is soon.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

IT IS TIME for Americans to take back the country and start a new government.

I agree with you on the preexisting thing. I don't think it's right to deny people care. However, I don't think anyone in the insurance company should go to jail, if they do deny for that reason. The company should just be handed a hefty fine that would make covering the "broke" person the viable option. I also don't believe that a company should be able to drop someone, either.

See? We can agree.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

I am not a car. I can't get a new me every 5 to 10 years. I have but one body in this life. If I developed something that needs constant care, and can't get insurance coverage, I am doomed to be either broke or have my ailments overcome me (unless somehow I become a multi-millionaire). This is one instance where I think regulation is legit.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw