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They have already said that those guys in PA.. umm I forget what they are called can be exempt.
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There are some religions that do not believe in doctors. Therefore, I was wondering what would be the legal recourse for members of these religions? Would they be required to purchase health care? I know that Christian Scientist do not believe in medical science and there are a few well known liberal Hollywood types that are Christian Scientist. Might make for a interesting court case beyond what various States are suing about.
Secretary of Defense
They have already said that those guys in PA.. umm I forget what they are called can be exempt.
Are vital U.S. interests more imperiled by what happens in Iraq where were have 50,000 troops, or Afghanistan where we have 100,000, or South Korea where we have 28,000 -- or by what is happening on our border with Mexico?...What does it profit America if we save Anbar and lose Arizona?
P, Buchanan
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There are exemptions in the law for those with a religious objection.
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Secretary of Defense
so everyone needs to convert to scientology...
Are vital U.S. interests more imperiled by what happens in Iraq where were have 50,000 troops, or Afghanistan where we have 100,000, or South Korea where we have 28,000 -- or by what is happening on our border with Mexico?...What does it profit America if we save Anbar and lose Arizona?
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Vice President
The Amish don't have a formal healthcare system, but when someone gets sick and needs hospital treatment, the Amish community pools together and pays cash for the necessary medical treatments for the person. Essentially they already have community health insurance, and hence are exempt.
Its a good question regarding whether you can be allowed a religious exemption though.
Secretary of Defense
Which leaves me wondering: Why would a spiritual objection be honored, but not a philosophical, moral, or even economic objection?
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort." -- Robert E. Heinlein
That's a good question, and one that extends way beyond just healthcare (military service and jury duty come immediately to mind). That would be an interesting thread, but I think it would be hard to have a logical discussion on it, probably would get very emotional.
Vice President
Because the constitution protects religious views from government intrusion, but not economic or philosophical views.
City Mayor
Let me play the devil's advocate here. You do not have to abide by the new Health Care mandate that everyone has to have health insurance if your religion is against medical science. Then all a person would have to do is convert to say Scientology. If they need serious medial attention all they would have to do is disavow their beliefs and become say a Baptist. They go to a insurance company and purchase health care. The insurance company can not turn them down due to pre-existing conditions. Problem solved.
I don't know what the rules are on HC, but when you abstain or object to other things based on religious grounds, you have to provide proof that you are actually a part of that religion. You can't just say that you are. And from what I heard, you'd be better off paying than actually converting to Scientology.Let me play the devil's advocate here. You do not have to abide by the new Health Care mandate that everyone has to have health insurance if your religion is against medical science. Then all a person would have to do is convert to say Scientology
President
What I guess would be ideal is to find an insurance company that covers some sort of homeopathy.
Yeah. Because that shit's actually expensive.I don't know what the rules are on HC, but when you abstain or object to other things based on religious grounds, you have to provide proof that you are actually a part of that religion. You can't just say that you are. And from what I heard, you'd be better off paying than actually converting to Scientology.
First they came for the mimes, and I did not speak out, because I was a mime.
Vice President
^^ This is a perfect post. Nothing more needs to be said on this aspect of the discussion.
"The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes (admits his philosophy is not viable)
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