Thread: Cell phones vs the healthcare law

Well, seven points for irony.

sinebar:

With respect... did you, or do you really think that people here are going to take anything Ann Coulter says seriously?

They would find fault with her if she came out in favor of free beer.

Better next time would be a lead in (something) like this: "I was reading something online the other day and it got me thinking about..."

Originally Posted by sinebar

I was reading an article written by Ann Coulter and she made a brilliant point.
She noted that when Reagan was President he split up AT&T, which had a huge monopoly on the phone industry, and deregulated phone service. The result was an explosion in telecomunication technology leading to nearly everyone on the planet having a cell phone. Even low income kids are walking around with cell phones. She also noted that the Democrats have just done the exact opposite to healtcare that Reagan did to telephones. The lesson from Reagan and the telephone industry is that deregulation and eliminating monopolies creates products and services that even low income kids can afford. But those liberals in congress just simply refuse to see that. They are so fucking ingrained with big government control and socialism it is simply impossible for them to make laws that would actually work.

Ann Coulter : Prescriptions for Disaster Now Covered Under Obamacare - Townhall.com

Socialism? The insurance industry is still privatized! What's with this "socialism" meme?

Let me say it again. The insurance industry is still privatized. In fact, it's the greatest gift to the insurance corporations. They get 32 million new customers as mandated by law to buy their shitty and defective product. There is no public option. There's no "government takeover."

So, Ann Coulter is arguing with a man made out of straw.

But I guess the talking point du jour is "government takeover."

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Well, seven points for irony.

I always thought that your sig line deserved the irony... considering that's what we on the right are doing.

Speaking truth to power baby!

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Socialism? The insurance industry is still privatized! What's with this "socialism" meme?

Let me say it again. The insurance industry is still privatized. In fact, it's the greatest gift to the insurance corporations. They get 32 million new customers as mandated by law to buy their shitty and defective product. There is no public option. There's no "government takeover."

So, Ann Coulter is arguing with a man made out of straw.

But I guess the talking point du jour is "government takeover."

Try this: "as mandated by law" and "government takeover."

Originally Posted by tsquare

Try this: "as mandated by law" and "government takeover."

Try this: "mandated by law" (which I don't like, by the way) doesn't equal "government takeover."

Today's lesson is on me.

She's full of shit (as usual). The main thing breaking up AT&T's monopoly did was foster innovation like 3-way calling, call forwarding, and call waiting. The tech to do those things was possible in those days but AT&T had no motivation to implement them because of its monopoly. Cell phones rely on massive improvements in battery tech, satellites, and signal detection, something well beyond AT&Ts capability back then and for the most part have nothing to do with telecommunications regulations.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

She's full of shit (as usual). The main thing breaking up AT&T's monopoly did was foster innovation like 3-way calling, call forwarding, and call waiting. The tech to do those things was possible in those days but AT&T had no motivation to implement them because of its monopoly. Cell phones rely on massive improvements in battery tech, satellites, and signal detection, something well beyond AT&Ts capability back then and for the most part have nothing to do with telecommunications regulations.

Yes, that's another point. Technology is the base factor here. Not the "breakup" of AT&T.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

She's full of shit (as usual). The main thing breaking up AT&T's monopoly did was foster innovation like 3-way calling, call forwarding, and call waiting. The tech to do those things was possible in those days but AT&T had no motivation to implement them because of its monopoly. Cell phones rely on massive improvements in battery tech, satellites, and signal detection, something well beyond AT&Ts capability back then and for the most part have nothing to do with telecommunications regulations.

Ding ding!

And, there's also the fact that what is happening in the healthcare system bears no resemblance to reversing what happened to AT&T. They are not creating an enforced monopoly that lacks incentive to economize or innovate.

And, of course, the places where real innovation in healthcare happens will be completely untouched by the healthcare law.


Once again that cunt Ann Coulter demonstrates that she's got neither integrity nor knowledge.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Ding ding!

And, there's also the fact that what is happening in the healthcare system bears no resemblance to reversing what happened to AT&T. They are not creating an enforced monopoly that lacks incentive to economize or innovate.

And, of course, the places where real innovation in healthcare happens will be completely untouched by the healthcare law.


Once again that cunt Ann Coulter demonstrates that she's got neither integrity nor knowledge.

I'm sure you didn't mean any disrespect to cunts everywhere. Cunt is too good for her.

She's more like an anal creampie.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Originally Posted by pramjockey
Ding ding!

And, there's also the fact that what is happening in the healthcare system bears no resemblance to reversing what happened to AT&T. They are not creating an enforced monopoly that lacks incentive to economize or innovate.

And, of course, the places where real innovation in healthcare happens will be completely untouched by the healthcare law.


Once again that cunt Ann Coulter demonstrates that she's got neither integrity nor knowledge.

I'm sure you didn't mean any disrespect to cunts everywhere. Cunt is too good for her.

She's more like an anal creampie.

So we go from cell phones to Ann Coulter to anatomy.

What is it about conservative women that brings out the "best" in liberals?

As far as deregulation of the phone services...it DID have a substantial amount to do with both cost and availability of service. There is a symbiotic relationship between service providers and hardware providers. The phones, the apps, the availability of service and the quality of service all function together when they hit the market. If there is one service provider then that provider can nix certain apps or certain hardware as they please. In an open market all these forces work together and it ends up being THE CONSUMER who gets to choose what combination of services and hardware work for them.....and at what price.

Originally Posted by lutherf

So we go from cell phones to Ann Coulter to anatomy.

What is it about conservative women that brings out the "best" in liberals?

Ann Coulter is a cunt. It's not because she's conservative. It's because she's a cunt.

I have nothing but respect for most conservative women. Elizabeth Dole comes to mind.

As far as deregulation of the phone services...it DID have a substantial amount to do with both cost and availability of service. There is a symbiotic relationship between service providers and hardware providers. The phones, the apps, the availability of service and the quality of service all function together when they hit the market. If there is one service provider then that provider can nix certain apps or certain hardware as they please. In an open market all these forces work together and it ends up being THE CONSUMER who gets to choose what combination of services and hardware work for them.....and at what price.

Apples and bowling balls.

Originally Posted by sinebar

I was reading an article written by Ann Coulter and she made a brilliant point.
She noted that when Reagan was President he split up AT&T, which had a huge monopoly on the phone industry, and deregulated phone service. The result was an explosion in telecomunication technology leading to nearly everyone on the planet having a cell phone. Even low income kids are walking around with cell phones. She also noted that the Democrats have just done the exact opposite to healtcare that Reagan did to telephones. The lesson from Reagan and the telephone industry is that deregulation and eliminating monopolies creates products and services that even low income kids can afford. But those liberals in congress just simply refuse to see that. They are so fucking ingrained with big government control and socialism it is simply impossible for them to make laws that would actually work.

Ann Coulter : Prescriptions for Disaster Now Covered Under Obamacare - Townhall.com

Funny....I wouldn't have pegged Coulter (or you for that matter) as a proponent of anti-trust regulations.

Certainly they clearly missed an opportunity to revoke the anti-trust exemption (that health care insurers enjoy) via the healthcare bill. That's probably one of the most glaring omissions if they were really serious about creating competition. I find myself agreeing, in part, with Coulter and with you. But I have to say, the brainstorm or realization seems a bit tardy.