Thread: sarah Palin Was Right - Death Panels

This is an example of taking a phrase "Death Panels" and trying to find words to fit. What I saw in the video was an explanation of how certain decisions would be made. No where do I see or hear, "We will decide who shall live or die", which fits to what I understand what a "Death Panel" would do. Of course, whether private or public insurance the individual would always (if he has the money) have the option of paying for treatment out of pocket. A panel that tries to make reasonable decisions on Medicare reimburesments is not a "Death Panel".

Futhermore, this decision process will not begin until 2014, and can be over ruled by Congress. There is plenty of time to make changes if the public so desires. Private health insurance is at least as mercenary, if not more so.

The phrase "death panel" is overblown nonsense.

The fact is that regardless of who your insurance provider is (or even if you are self-insured with loads of cash), there will be a review board at some level that oversees your care.

Matt

Originally Posted by MattInFla

The phrase "death panel" is overblown nonsense.

The fact is that regardless of who your insurance provider is (or even if you are self-insured with loads of cash), there will be a review board at some level that oversees your care.

Matt

Exactly. Like any other limited resource, there have to be lines drawn for coverage, like which of various prescription alternatives will be covered as primary vs. secondary meds, etc.

I'm going to call my doctors office and schedule an appointment for three hours from now. When they say they're booked and can fit me in tomorrow instead, I'm going to accuse the secretary of being on a death panel.

OMFG!!!! IOW, nothing has actually changed, but the RW is desperately trying to create the illusion that it has?

Who'd a'thunk it?

Originally Posted by tsquare

See it here...

Breitbart.tv Obama’s Budget Director: Powerful Rationing Panel (Not Doctors) Will Control Health Care Levels

Obama’s nationalized health care bill includes powerful health care rationing “death panels.”

Obama Budget Director Peter Orszag admitted earlier this month that:

A Powerful Rationing Panel (Not Doctors) Will Control Health Care Levels

Not you
Not your family
Not your Doctor

Fucking government.

This is one of the reasons why they would not tell you what was in the bill before it passed and this is a big reason that it must be repealed.

Sarah Palin... speaking truth to power

Obama... lying sack of shit that wants to control your life and your death.

The bill was out there for anyone to read. Why didn't you read it?

Originally Posted by Sunshine

The bill was out there for anyone to read. Why didn't you read it?

I did... so did Sarah.

We knew this crap... and a thousand other things were in it.

People claimed that we lied and were 'stupid'

We were right

Originally Posted by MattInFla

The phrase "death panel" is overblown nonsense.

The fact is that regardless of who your insurance provider is (or even if you are self-insured with loads of cash), there will be a review board at some level that oversees your care.

Matt

Lefty lies!! There are no such things as policy limits or other bureaucratic decisions regarding coverage in the private insurance industry! Only the government runs death panels!

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Bullshit. There is nothing resembling "death panels." More idiotic and irresponsible fearmongering from the right.

Fucking pathetic.

Actually death panels are not affiliated with the government or BCBS. They are employed by hospitals and their official name is Ethics Committee.

Glad I could clear that up.

Originally Posted by Sunshine

Actually death panels are not affiliated with the government or BCBS. They are employed by hospitals and their official name is Ethics Committee.

Glad I could clear that up.

:rolleyes:

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Your bitterness at being just a bedpan changer is no excuse for the baseless vitriol you throw at your medical superiors.

If you hate doctors so much, perhaps you should put that "law degree" to use?

The last time I had health insurance I had a policy. That's a contract. I could read what I was entitled to receive under the contract. With the government, there is no contract. To paraphrase a recent statement, "You can wait till you make a claim to find out what's covered."

Prior to the government mandating what coverage would be, I could read the policies from various companies and pick what I needed. Not any more. One size fits all.

With insurance, if I'm covered for by-pass surgery, I'm covered. I don't have a bureaucrat saying, "Well, sure, we cover that but not for him." If they do wish to have that option, it has to be in the policy.

The legislature doesn't have to pass the rules the bureaucrats come up with. Actually, when they find an outrageous rule, such as giving drunks SSI, they have to pass a law to stop it.

I would much prefer privte insurance to government insurance. If the government wasn't dictating to the insurance companies I could probably afford it, too.

See.......now you know why the people who brought this piece of shit bill forward exempted themselves from it.

The "Death Panel" arguement demonstrates what is terribly wrong with our body politic. There are no "Death Panels" but people would rather go on and on about something that really doesn't exist rather than discuss what actually does exist. The arguement is simplistic who wouldn't oppose "Death Panels" so let's twist the meaning of words and intentions in order to create panic in the people who have abdicated their research and thinking to others.