Thread: America. The Best Health Care System in the World! NOT!

Originally Posted by Sunshine

I encourage you to read the entire article. There is a link for whatever flavor you consider yourself. This is abominable. But hey! This child who should get paid out the yin yang, unfortunately, lives in California, the home of tort reform. What a victory for those doctors and nurses.

Yeah yeah. ~shh~ Everybody makes mistakes. That's just pure bullshit.

You have all swooned and wept over the Canadian child who couldn't get her death extended. No doubt you will feel all warm and fuzzy about this child. After all, she has had the best health care in the world!~



Lawsuit Filed After 2-Year Old Loses Hand, Both Feet After 5 Hour ER Wait

Lawsuit Filed After Toddler Loses Hand, Both Feet In 5-Hour ER Wait - FoxNews.com


This is just another iteration of the Darling Case: Classic Hospital Liability for Medical Staff Member Liability - Darling v. Charleston Community Memorial Hospital, 33 Ill.2d 326, 211 N.E.2d 253, 14 A.L.R.3d 860 (Ill. Sep 29, 1965)

Read it and weep.

Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all.
Ever heard of statistical significance or a statistically significant sample size?
As a NA ,and w/o the deep well rounded education required to be an MD or PHD,, I doubt it,,, rendering your "wives tales" comments worthless. But your links may well impress the uneducated--not my problem.

BTW are you still in China? The best chinese food in the world is in NYC.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Sunshine

I encourage you to read the entire article. There is a link for whatever flavor you consider yourself. This is abominable. But hey! This child who should get paid out the yin yang, unfortunately, lives in California, the home of tort reform. What a victory for those doctors and nurses.

Yeah yeah. ~shh~ Everybody makes mistakes. That's just pure bullshit.

You have all swooned and wept over the Canadian child who couldn't get her death extended. No doubt you will feel all warm and fuzzy about this child. After all, she has had the best health care in the world!~



Lawsuit Filed After 2-Year Old Loses Hand, Both Feet After 5 Hour ER Wait

Lawsuit Filed After Toddler Loses Hand, Both Feet In 5-Hour ER Wait - FoxNews.com


This is just another iteration of the Darling Case: Classic Hospital Liability for Medical Staff Member Liability - Darling v. Charleston Community Memorial Hospital, 33 Ill.2d 326, 211 N.E.2d 253, 14 A.L.R.3d 860 (Ill. Sep 29, 1965)

Read it and weep.

It sounds lilke, at least on healthcare, we often agree.

This case is particularly sad, though! What a waste!
Hopefully, she will get enough from the system to be able to afford the latest and best technology for prosthesis. . .on going, as she will need constant replacements as she outgrowths the original prosthesis!

But, nothing will replace her hands and feet.

Originally Posted by Sunshine

I encourage you to read the entire article. There is a link for whatever flavor you consider yourself. This is abominable. But hey! This child who should get paid out the yin yang, unfortunately, lives in California, the home of tort reform. What a victory for those doctors and nurses.

Yeah yeah. ~shh~ Everybody makes mistakes. That's just pure bullshit.

You have all swooned and wept over the Canadian child who couldn't get her death extended. No doubt you will feel all warm and fuzzy about this child. After all, she has had the best health care in the world!~



Lawsuit Filed After 2-Year Old Loses Hand, Both Feet After 5 Hour ER Wait

Lawsuit Filed After Toddler Loses Hand, Both Feet In 5-Hour ER Wait - FoxNews.com


This is just another iteration of the Darling Case: Classic Hospital Liability for Medical Staff Member Liability - Darling v. Charleston Community Memorial Hospital, 33 Ill.2d 326, 211 N.E.2d 253, 14 A.L.R.3d 860 (Ill. Sep 29, 1965)

Read it and weep.

sounds like the er was very busy so they took what was thought to be the worst cases first.
as in any er iny country in teh world.
or do you bevli that this is what shodl have happened.
sick child with a fever comes in and a person comes in via ambulance with chest pains and iregular heart rythm.
do you a take the child with the fever or the person having a heart attack?
you decide. remeber children with fevers is rarely life threating heart attacks are almost always life thteating

You have all swooned and wept over the Canadian child who couldn't get her death extended

What?

I don't want a long lingering death. Why the heck would anybody want to get their death extended?

And the article has nothing to do with dying.

Originally Posted by sailorman126

sounds like the er was very busy so they took what was thought to be the worst cases first.
as in any er iny country in teh world.
or do you bevli that this is what shodl have happened.
sick child with a fever comes in and a person comes in via ambulance with chest pains and iregular heart rythm.
do you a take the child with the fever or the person having a heart attack?
you decide. remeber children with fevers is rarely life threating heart attacks are almost always life thteating

I am certain that, if it applies, this argument will be used by the defense attorney! In the mean time, we only have one fact. . . and it is that the little child waited for 5 hours to receive care, you can write a book with the rest, but it is not fact!

Still, I am not a health care professional, but there is NO WAY I would let a 2 year old child with high fever wait for care for 5 hours. A 2 year old child IS fragile also!

Originally Posted by Sadanie

It sounds lilke, at least on healthcare, we often agree.

This case is particularly sad, though! What a waste!
Hopefully, she will get enough from the system to be able to afford the latest and best technology for prosthesis. . .on going, as she will need constant replacements as she outgrowths the original prosthesis!

But, nothing will replace her hands and feet.

God, what a sick and clueless response! Oh yes, with her millions, she will have a WONDERFUL life with all her prosthesis.

Originally Posted by sailorman126

sounds like the er was very busy so they took what was thought to be the worst cases first.
as in any er iny country in teh world.
or do you bevli that this is what shodl have happened.
sick child with a fever comes in and a person comes in via ambulance with chest pains and iregular heart rythm.
do you a take the child with the fever or the person having a heart attack?
you decide. remeber children with fevers is rarely life threating heart attacks are almost always life thteating

I remember learning about the flesh eating bacteria in nursing schoo first semester. Where the fuck were THESE nurses? In the linen closet with the prof or a doctor, no doubt!~

Yours, too is an inappropriate response. There is NO justification for this. They all need to lose their licenses.

Of course my thread has been perused by 22 people bent on making sure I am PC. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Golden Cabal

What?

I don't want a long lingering death. Why the heck would anybody want to get their death extended?

And the article has nothing to do with dying.

That's exactly it, no one in his/her right mind would want their death to be extended. . .and that baby didn't even have a mind. . .never did!

Sunshine was making the comparison between the outrage about Canadian hospital NOT keeping this brain death baby alive and the care (or lack of care for 5 hours) the 2 year old girl received in this emergency room.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

That's exactly it, no one in his/her right mind would want their death to be extended. . .and that baby didn't even have a mind. . .never did!

Sunshine was making the comparison between the outrage about Canadian hospital NOT keeping this brain death baby alive and the care (or lack of care for 5 hours) the 2 year old girl received in this emergency room.

Actually there ARE quite a number of people who want every possible thing done including heroics. I have read hundreds if not thousands of health care POAs. You cannot generalize YOUR wishes to everyone else.

Originally Posted by Sunshine

God, what a sick and clueless response! Oh yes, with her millions, she will have a WONDERFUL life with all her prosthesis.



I remember learning about the flesh eating bacteria in nursing schoo first semester. Where the fuck were THESE nurses? In the linen closet with the prof or a doctor, no doubt!~

Yours, too is an inappropriate response. There is NO justification for this. They all need to lose their licenses.

Of course my thread has been perused by 22 people bent on making sure I am PC. :rolleyes:

your right every child that goes into the er with a fever has flesh eating bactireia,
so great perfect nurse that you are how many flesh eating cases have you seen in your career? it sounds like you must have seen tens of thousands.
but according to this it is very rare
Necrotizing Fasciitis (Flesh-Eating Bacteria)-Topic Overview
Flesh Eating Bacterial Infection Causes, Symptoms and Treatment by MedicineNet.com
so when a child comes in with a fever you go it is a very rare flesh eating bactireia we need to get them in before everyone else lmfao.
you have no idea if the er was busy all you do is condem the nurses and drs.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

I am certain that, if it applies, this argument will be used by the defense attorney! In the mean time, we only have one fact. . . and it is that the little child waited for 5 hours to receive care, you can write a book with the rest, but it is not fact!

Still, I am not a health care professional, but there is NO WAY I would let a 2 year old child with high fever wait for care for 5 hours. A 2 year old child IS fragile also!

the reason why i am thinking it was busy is because the law suit says it was understaffed.
i dont know how big the town is that they went to but i know from the hospital that i worked at years ago if you came in at midnight you had the dr the nurse and a er tech that is it. so if you had a heart attack, a car accident, and a girl with a fever guess what the girl with the fever will wait.
we dont know the facts all we have is what the parents say and even they dont say if it was busy, and for sunshine to try and say this shows how bad us health care is is just lame.

Originally Posted by sailorman126

your right every child that goes into the er with a fever has flesh eating bactireia,
so great perfect nurse that you are how many flesh eating cases have you seen in your career? it sounds like you must have seen tens of thousands.
but according to this it is very rare
Necrotizing Fasciitis (Flesh-Eating Bacteria)-Topic Overview
Flesh Eating Bacterial Infection Causes, Symptoms and Treatment by MedicineNet.com
so when a child comes in with a fever you go it is a very rare flesh eating bactireia we need to get them in before everyone else lmfao.
you have no idea if the er was busy all you do is condem the nurses and drs.

Actually, ever child that goes to the ER does NOT have flesh eating bacteria. But every nurse is supposed to recognize it.

Originally Posted by Sunshine

Actually, ever child that goes to the ER does NOT have flesh eating bacteria. But every nurse is supposed to recognize it.

really how? with their magic eyes?

How is necrotizing fasciitis diagnosed?

The doctor will diagnose your infection based on how suddenly your symptoms started and how quickly the infection is spreading. The infected tissue may be tested for bacteria. You also may need X-rays, a CT scan, or an MRI to look for injury to your organs or to find out how much the infection has spread

so i guess you can take a vital and know right away what the problem is but everyone else in the world needs more tests.

[QUOTE=Sunshine;1864001]God, what a sick and clueless response! Oh yes, with her millions, she will have a WONDERFUL life with all her prosthesis.
QUOTE]

Thank you for your generous response.

Maybe you should have taken the time to read to the last sentence. Obviously this child's life will not be easy. But at least she is alive, and although the millions will not replace what she lost, it will make it easier for her to reach her full potential. This would not be the case in many other countries or if she had lost her hands and feet with no recourse for some monetary compensation.

I believe in people with disabilities. Maybe because I KNOW they can live a full life and they DON't like being judged by their disabilities.

You are letting your distaste of me get in the way of your reasoning.