Health care Facts not opinion.

**skeptic1** · 06-17-2012

I could write for 1/2 hour with comments on the following material (And did) but lost it some how in the universe.
It is not Spam but rather verified facts to consider in respect to the consequence of your votes in the coming election.

If it is a violation kill it but firs consider the need to understand the problems facing the middle class if we can't solve the related facts involved.

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The percentage of people in the United States without health insurance was 15.8% in 2006, and the number of uninsured was 47.0 million. — US Census Bureau
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Health Care Statistics in the United States
Health Insurance
The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system. Source: Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences
In 2006, the percentage of Americans without health insurance was 15.8%, or approximately 47 million uninsured people. Source: US Census Bureau
Among the 84.2% with health insurance in 2006, coverage was provided through an employer 59.7%, purchased individually 9.1%, and 27.0% was government funded (Medicare, Medicaid, Military). (There is some overlap in coverage figures.) Source: US Census Bureau
The primary reason given for lack of health insurance coverage in 2005 was cost (more than 50%), lost job or a change in employment (24%), Medicaid benefits stopped (10%), ineligibility for family insurance coverage due to age or leaving school (8%). Source: National Center for Health Statistics

More than 40 million adults stated that they needed but did not receive one or more of these health services (medical care, prescription medicines, mental health care, dental care, or eyeglasses) in 2005 because they could not afford it. Source: National Center for Health Statistics
Medicaid, which accounted for 12.9% of health care coverage in 2006, is a health insurance program jointly funded by the federal and state governments to provide health care for qualifying low-income individuals. Source: US Census Bureau
Medicare, a federally funded health insurance program that covers the health care of most individuals 65 years of age and over and disabled persons, accounted for 13.6% of health care coverage in 2006. Source: US Census Bureau
Medicare operates with 3% overhead, non-profit insurance 16% overhead, and private (for-profit) insurance 26% overhead. Source: Journal of American Medicine 2007
Health Care Expenditures
In 2005, personal health care expenditures were paid by private health insurance 36%, federal government 35%, state and local governments 11% , and out-of-pocket payments 15%. Source: National Center for Health Statistics
The United States spends twice as much on health care per capita ($7,129) than any other country . . . and spending continues to increase. In 2005, the national health care expenditures totaled $2 trillion. Source: National Center for Health Statistics
75% of all health care dollars are spent on patients with one or more chronic conditions, many of which can be prevented, including diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung disease, high blood pressure, and cancer. Source: Health Affairs
From 2000 to 2006, overall inflation has increased 3.5%, wages have increased 3.8%, and health care premiums have increased 87%. Source: Kaiser Family Foundation
The average family health insurance premium, provided through an employer health benefit program, was $11,480 in 2006. Employees paid an average of $2,973 towards the premium amount. Source: Kaiser Family Foundation
Infant Mortality
The United States ranks 43rd in lowest infant mortality rate, down from 12th in 1960 and 21st in 1990. Singapore has the lowest rate with 2.3 deaths per 1000 live births, while the United States has a rate of 6.3 deaths per 1000 live births. Some of the other 42 nations that have a lower infant mortality rate than the US include Hong Kong, Slovenia, and Cuba. Source: CIA Factbook (2008)
Approximately 30,000 infants die in the United States each year. The infant mortality rate, which is the risk of death during the first year of life, is related to the underlying health of the mother, public health practices, socioeconomic conditions, and availability and use of appropriate health care for infants and pregnant women. Sources: CDC and National Center for Health Statistics
Life Expectancy
Life expectancy at birth in the US is an average of 78.14 years, which ranks 47th in highest total life expectancy compared to other countries. Source: CIA Factbook (2008)
Bankruptcy
About half of the bankruptcy filings in the United States are due to medical expenses. Source: Health Affairs Journal 2005

I recovered the above by asking google for "Health care statistics.

**skeptic1** · 06-19-2012

Excerpt from prior post:

Health Care Expenditures
In 2005, personal health care expenditures were paid by private health insurance 36%, federal government 35%, state and local governments 11% , and out-of-pocket payments 15%. Source: National Center for Health Statistics

Health cared providers should take note.

46% of their income was derived from Federal or State Government ! As annoying as this might be if a goodly portion of this disappeared how would it affect your practice ?

Some may be recouped at least in Texas where the law allowing payments from others benefitting from ones referrals is now allowed.

The reasons for the old law should be obvious as an inflationary factor adding to cost of service. (In the case of primary care doctors it is IMO the right move).

The people want single payer health insurance ! (As the rest of the world seems to have).

**JohnLocke** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by skeptic1

The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system.

A testament to American exceptionalism. The US is also the only country founded on the principle of freedom.

If other countries jumped off a bridge, should we jump off a bridge?

**tsquare** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

A testament to American exceptionalism. The US is also the only country founded on the principle of freedom.

If other countries jumped off a bridge, should we jump off a bridge?

Indeed... want another "FACT"?

FACT: starting next year, I lose my health insurance. The company I'm with will not be allowed to sell this type of policy to me. Thus I will be forced into an exchange and will be forced to buy whatever the exchange says I have to buy, with whatever coverage, at whatever price they want (need) to charge me.

Those are the facts, as written into the ACA, and they are beyond dispute.

**jpn** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

If other countries jumped off a bridge, should we jump off a bridge?

If citizens of other countries decide to treat each other as family, should we?

**CowboyTed** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

A testament to American exceptionalism. The US is also the only country founded on the principle of freedom.

If other countries jumped off a bridge, should we jump off a bridge?

Freedom... Are you mad.

Health Insurance or a lack of it is used against working and middle class as a way to keep them in line... Keep them working for the man cause not doing so could leave you uninsured. Same applies for Student loans.

Look at this way, a person is working and wants to branch out on my own. They can't because I can't get coverage. They have kids at home and it would be irresponsible to leave them or the breadwinner of the house with the possibilty of getting sick and going bankrupt. It is a shackle not freedom.

In EU this contraint doesn't exist. Entepeneurs are encouraged to take risk because it allows a saftey net to catch if you fall. They reduce the risk for the individual. That is encouraging freedom.

Europe enjoys probably more freedoms in reality than the US. Thre is no Patriot Act and society doesn't try a load debt on to our students at a young age, there is more than two parties and Gerrymandering, our politicians take far less corporate donations (thus represent the people more), we have living constitutions changeable by democratic voting...

So I don't get where you say US has more freedom than EU

**Blue Doggy** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

A testament to American exceptionalism. The US is also the only country founded on the principle of freedom.

If other countries jumped off a bridge, should we jump off a bridge?

More accurate saw would be if other countries did not jump off the bridge to their peril, should we go ahead and jump? Just because we beat our chests like Tarzan and holler how individualistic we are? The USA would have illustrated our exceptionalism is we had adopted a single payer system back when the dems wanted it during pres. truman's term.

The 3 per cent overhead, versus the 16 per cent for non profit, and the 26 for, for profit insurance is a helluva lot of costs, that employers have to pay. What a load this would be off the backs of business, making them more competitive, but of course it would not help with china and other exploitive capitalistic endeavors. But it might help in trade with non exploitive labor states.

The future of health care in america is single payer, and you can take that to the bank. We will be forced into it because of the out of control rising costs. The only thing I have against it is the gov't will be dictating personal habits, with Big Brother keeping an eye on all of us. The costs of single payer will be a hellva lot less freedom, with even more intrusion into personal lives of the american people. It does not have to be that way, but given the trends, it is inevitable. But this would be inevitable, even with private sector insurance. Once you delve into controlling what humans do, Pandora's Box is opened, and it was opened quite sometime ago. All in the interest of this amorphous thing they call the public safety, or the public interest.

So I have a love/hate relationship with single payer, because of the trends towards dictating personal habits. I can see an america where your annual doctor visit will involve a drug screen, including booze and tobacco, and if you fail it, you go into rehab. If you fail it again, it's prison, fines, or both. That is where we are heading. And the cons will push for this, as I do not buy into the idea they are the protectors of personal freedom. They are con artists and pick and choose, ideologically just how free they want to allow you to be.

**chassisman** · 06-19-2012

HC FACT: The ACA was the cause the my HC Insurance premiums to jump by 30% (according to my BCBS rep) Hey Barack, where's my better , cheaper health care?

**Damn Yankee** · 06-19-2012

The only fact worth consideration is that ObamaCare is unconstitutional. If Americans wanted this crap, they'd vote for it as an amendment.

**Blue Doggy** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by CowboyTed

Freedom... Are you mad.

Health Insurance or a lack of it is used against working and middle class as a way to keep them in line... Keep them working for the man cause not doing so could leave you uninsured. Same applies for Student loans.

Look at this way, a person is working and wants to branch out on my own. They can't because I can't get coverage. They have kids at home and it would be irresponsible to leave them or the breadwinner of the house with the possibilty of getting sick and going bankrupt. It is a shackle not freedom.

In EU this contraint doesn't exist. Entepeneurs are encouraged to take risk because it allows a saftey net to catch if you fall. They reduce the risk for the individual. That is encouraging freedom.

Europe enjoys probably more freedoms in reality than the US. Thre is no Patriot Act and society doesn't try a load debt on to our students at a young age, there is more than two parties and Gerrymandering, our politicians take far less corporate donations (thus represent the people more), we have living constitutions changeable by democratic voting...

So I don't get where you say US has more freedom than EU

We have more freedom for the top dogs. That is what JL is speaking of. They are even free now to fire our own citizens, and hire communists, at cents on the dollar, and have free access of our markets. That is the freedom the cons talk about in actuality.

This freedom allows millions to have no healthcare. That is the freedom these guys really talk about. Or it is the freedom to piss on your own nation so you can create greater wealth for yourself. The freedom to use america, but not to give back. They have an odd idea of freedom.

**Blue Doggy** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

The only fact worth consideration is that ObamaCare is unconstitutional. If Americans wanted this crap, they'd vote for it as an amendment.

Yeah, I don't agree with ACA either. Mandates to buy a private policy just rubs my ass wrong. Forcing people to help the insurance companies get richer. That is why obamacare came from right wing think tanks like the heritage foundation.

We should be thankful though. If the SC gets rid of the mandate, it is a cruel blow to the republicans, who really want this ACA, but have to oppose it because obama signed it. When have you ever known the pubs to be against something that aids business? That brings them more customers?

**USCitizen** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by tsquare

Indeed... want another "FACT"?

FACT: starting next year, I lose my health insurance. The company I'm with will not be allowed to sell this type of policy to me. Thus I will be forced into an exchange and will be forced to buy whatever the exchange says I have to buy, with whatever coverage, at whatever price they want (need) to charge me.

Those are the facts, as written into the ACA, and they are beyond dispute.

I was told by a NYS Insurance Agent 8 months ago that DBAs were no longer allowed to become part of larger consortiums because health Insurance companies want to eliminate lower group rates.

**Damn Yankee** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Yeah, I don't agree with ACA either. Mandates to buy a private policy just rubs my ass wrong. Forcing people to help the insurance companies get richer. That is why obamacare came from right wing think tanks like the heritage foundation.

We should be thankful though. If the SC gets rid of the mandate, it is a cruel blow to the republicans, who really want this ACA, but have to oppose it because obama signed it. When have you ever known the pubs to be against something that aids business? That brings them more customers?

How is destroying private insurance companies good for business?

**USCitizen** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

How is destroying private insurance companies good for business?

Did I miss somwething in BD's posting?
I don't see the word "destroy".

**JohnLocke** · 06-19-2012

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

The 3 per cent overhead, versus the 16 per cent for non profit, and the 26 for, for profit insurance is a helluva lot of costs,

I'm not sure where you are getting your data from but the costs are not due to insurance. When Harry Truman was dying in intensive care in 1971 it cost $17/day. Now is costs closer to $10,000 per day. This is because of government. The solution is not more government.

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