Thread: Conservative Lie: Access to Hospitals is Same as Health Insurance

Originally Posted by USCitizen

You have an ~10% unemployment rate so SOMEONE is unemployed.
And yes, my kids are young and educated and employed and are going to have their own businesses with the successes and (hopefully not) failures that come along with such responsibility.
I the other hand, don't need to hear radio ads from the Seidenfeld School of Computer Programming, a Division of Pace University, lying to me about what a great field Software Development is.
Though my kids do laugh when they hear this commercial.

Actually I made a small mistake earlier. It was 2 sons, 1 son in law and 1 grandson.

Yes, we have 10% unemployment in Alabama, but guess what? I can pick up any news paper and if I added all the help wanted jobs listed all over the state the number of open jobs exceed the number of people who are "looking" for work; mostly because they don't have the training or expertise to do the job. Do you think these people "looking" for a job want to get retrained? Maybe, but I don't see our trade schools filling up with students. Right now there are 3 aircraft repair companies screaming for air frame, jet engine, and avionics workers, all with good pay, and no one to hire.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Why don't you ask the plethora of Ecuadorians who have fled Ecuador for the US?

I'm married to an Ecuadorian immigrant.

They "flee" here for the opportunity the United States provides.

Most of them do pretty damn well.

My wife came here as a child. Her family had nothing when they got here. Didn't even speak English.

Her dad just retired from a six-figure job as a bookkeeper.

She's an MBA and a senior director at a major corporation.

Her brother owns a pretty successful small business down in Virginia.

Her sister is a real estate agent who owns two homes.

Her other brother is a gambling addict (we think) and an all-around loser.

Kinda proves my point, right?

Like my own family, her family has members who apply themselves, embrace challenges, take intelligent risks, make smart decisions, take advantage of the opportunity America provides, and have been pretty successful as a result.

Then there are other members, in both our families (and in the population at large) who wanna play fuck around all the time. Needless to say, these people generally end up unsuccessful.

I know a few people who emigrated here from Ecuador, all professionals, who say less than 1% of Ecuadorians are filthy rich and the rest live in squalor.

The Ecuadorians you know are either idiots or they're lying.

Or you're exagerating.

One of the three, and I'd be inclined to suspect the latter.

Including extended family, I've probably met damn near a thousand Ecuadorian immigrants living in the United States and a couple hundred who have come up on vacation, I've been to Ecuador.

Ecuador is a poor country overall, especially when you get out of the cities, and especially-especially when you're talking about the indigenous population, but the claim that 1% of Ecuadorians are filthy rich and the rest live in squalor is just unadulterated bullshit.

Ecuador has a thriving, and growing, middle class and a large lower class that can't, in any way, be described as living in "squalor".

I wonder where that $5.00 is REALLY going?

Damned if I know. I don't even know what the point of your asking the question is, compounded by the fact that the facts you've predicated the question on are bullshit.

Regardless, it wouldn't make an difference to me.

The bottom line is that while Ecuador's population is shrinking (slowly, and it's generally been statistically flat over the last decade or so) it isn't shrinking because of a famine or anything like that. Even the poorest of the poor still eat.

And when you get right down to it, that's what the poorest of the poor should do.

I can give a fuck whether or not they have Game Boys, flat screen TVs, KoolAid, D&G sunglasses, bling, or anything else.

Like I said, rice and motherfucking beans.