Thread: Sugar is Toxic and addictive, should it be regulated?

I'm still waiting for the link that fructose is metabolized by the liver.

Originally Posted by OldmanDan

I'm still waiting for the link that fructose is metabolized by the liver.

Because it's not. Sometimes you should really look at the simplest of solutions to problems.

In this case, I'll wager that it's the couch potato life style playing Xbox rather than going outside and physically active playing which is making the kids obese, and with obesity comes diabetes. Simple.

Originally Posted by OldmanDan

I'm still waiting for the link that fructose is metabolized by the liver.

Sugar: The Bitter Truth - YouTube

Here's a thought. If you think sugar is harmful, don't consume any. Simple solution. I get sick to death of hearing and seeing people who think we need to get rid of everything they don't like. Hate to break it to these folks, but nobody makes it out of life alive. There need not be any complaining about the taxpayer picking up the tab for those who get a disease as a result of their eating habits or any other habits from democrats. Obamacare does just that, that is unless they start deciding who they're going to cover and who they are not. So Goob, if your not for taxpayers picking up the tab for people's bad habits, guess what, you are about to get a whole lot more of that!

Originally Posted by buck84

Here's a thought. If you think sugar is harmful, don't consume any. Simple solution. I get sick to death of hearing and seeing people who think we need to get rid of everything they don't like. Hate to break it to these folks, but nobody makes it out of life alive. There need not be any complaining about the taxpayer picking up the tab for those who get a disease as a result of their eating habits or any other habits from democrats. Obamacare does just that, that is unless they start deciding who they're going to cover and who they are not. So Goob, if your not for taxpayers picking up the tab for people's bad habits, guess what, you are about to get a whole lot more of that!

ahoy Buck84,

'tis really hard to find a peer-reviewed piece which states that refined sugar isn't bad fer ye. it seems that the "postive thing" refined sugar delivers to the user be pleasure.

It should come as no surprise that calories are related to obesity, which is related to type 2 diabetes. But this study looked at whether the source of the calories mattered. It turned out that it did. The study showed that for every 150 kcal/day that a person ingested, the prevalence of type 2 diabetes in the country increased by a non-significant 0.1%. But a 150 kcalday increase in sugar intake was associated with a (significant) 1.1% increase in diabetes prevalence. That effect was cumulative. This was after controlling for other factors, including alcohol and not exercising.

The Washington Monthly - Ten Miles Square - Sugar Really Is Bad for You

now, i really don't know precisely what any 'o that means (and thats ok, because i think imma not alone in this thread in postin' links that i don't really grasp), but it sounds pretty bad.

in this one life, i think folks should be able to pursue pleasure in any manner they wish, as long as it doesn't involve criminal activity (and in my case, even if it involves criminal activity, rawr!)...i just don't think society should bear the cost 'o reckless behavior.

that means that if yer a glutton fer sugar and yer bones shatter into tiny shards within yer body due to osteoporosis, thats great, but yer also now yer on yer own...no medicare or medicaid fer ye.

i think a warnin' label on foods with refined sugar would be okies dokies, so folks have fair warnin'.

*nod nod*

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by eohrnberger

Because it's not. Sometimes you should really look at the simplest of solutions to problems.

In this case, I'll wager that it's the couch potato life style playing Xbox rather than going outside and physically active playing which is making the kids obese, and with obesity comes diabetes. Simple.

That's not what the study in the OP said.
Obesity and low sugar intake didn't produce diabetes, high sugar and "healthy" body weight did.
It's definitely the sugar.
Here's what makes HFCS so evil, it's really cheap, so they put it in everything.
Because it makes people eat more, so they buy more.

Failing to fuel your body properly is unhealthy. You can avoid sugar and hfs by making your meals from the basic incredients. I frankly doubt sugar is addicitve my office has a free soda fountain in it, for several months I had one or two cups a workday as a pick me up... oops put on some weight so I just cut the soda out: no detox phase, no cravings, no problem I drink more water if sugar is addicitve it's about as addicitve as brussel sprouts.

Originally Posted by goober

A recently release study PLOS ONE: The Relationship of Sugar to Population-Level Diabetes Prevalence: An Econometric Analysis of Repeated Cross-Sectional Data
has shown that sugar is toxic, sugar causes diabetes.
The more sugar is consumed, the more diabetes is present, reducing sugar reduces diabetes, the link between sugar and diabetes is as strong as the link between cigarettes and cancer.

We also know that sugar is addictive Sugar is as addictive as cocaine, andcauses obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease: Researchers - NY Daily News

So we have a substance that is addictive and toxic.

Should it be a choice?
Should it be banned, taxed, regulated?

Should it be considered abuse to give it to children?

Umm….no.

I’ve had personal experience with a false child abuse charge [well, a family member did] which quickly turned into an expensive case of parent abuse at the hands of the government.

It was a real eye opener, too. Too many people lack a healthy fear of government in this country.

It will be our undoing if we are not careful.

Originally Posted by Darth Hussein Omar

Umm….no.

I’ve had personal experience with a false child abuse charge [well, a family member did] which quickly turned into an expensive case of parent abuse at the hands of the government.

It was a real eye opener, too. Too many people lack a healthy fear of government in this country.

It will be our undoing if we are not careful.

really, sugar is poison, but you know of a case of someone being wrongfully charged with child abuse, so feeding children poison should be OK.....

Originally Posted by goober

really, sugar is poison, but you know of a case of someone being wrongfully charged with child abuse, so feeding children poison should be OK.....

Sugar is not a poison. Anything, taken to extremes can be poisonous, including distilled water.

Originally Posted by goober

really, sugar is poison, but you know of a case of someone being wrongfully charged with child abuse, so feeding children poison should be OK.....

Just out of curiosity, do you know what happens when blood levels of this "poison" drop below 40-50 mg/Dl in humans?

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Just out of curiosity, do you know what happens when blood levels of this "poison" drop below 40-50 mg/Dl in humans?

You're thinking of glucose, the poison is fructose.
fructose hits the liver as hard as ethanol.
and if fructose drops to zero, nothing happens.

Originally Posted by OldmanDan

Sugar is not a poison. Anything, taken to extremes can be poisonous, including distilled water.

So then there's parts of the country where 30 to 40% of the population are showing signs of "taking this to extremes".
In fact, that average American weighs 25 lbs more now than the day HFCS was introduced.

The average American eats 141 lbs of sugar/year.
Thats 70 pounds of fructose being processed by the average American liver each year.

Even watching my diet as closely as I do, I probably eat 20 or 30 lbs a year, it's in everything.