New Orleans Culture, will it revive? - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

nougatmaster · #31 (**permalink**) 09-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Sucre

There absolutely nothing French about NO - except some old language remains and district names, and the most funny is that people don't know what they refer to (like large towns in France, famous personalities etc.) and the prononciation make these words sound phony but definitively not French : when I was in NO and pronounced these street names actually correctly, nobody understood me

. The French quarter looks Spanish, the Cajun food is a typical product of the place & climate, jazz is an original production and the 70% black population was imported after the French had left. So much for the "Frenchness" of NO - It's a wonderful city and I hope it will recover after this nightmare is over.

heres a quicky
calliope st.= CAL-ee-O-p
chartres= charters (this one drove me nuts for a month)
etc.
the city is not french it's NAWLINS'
the quata is pseudo french but if you want paris go there, new orleans has her own beauty and amazing art architecture.........

nougatmaster · #32 (**permalink**) 09-07-2005

po-boys cristos pat o's muffalletas ----fest
mardi gras, uptown, strippers hustlers, gumbo, sculpture, jesus, urine, heat,women,laughter.
heart
jackson square, congo square, louis, fats,
cash money records, no limit.white tees, black faces, black eyes, brightsmiles, tchoupitoulas, st. charles, streetcars.
the list goes on but remember to pronounce it......charters!

Sucre · #33 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005

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Originally Posted by nougatmaster

heres a quicky
calliope st.= CAL-ee-O-p
chartres= charters (this one drove me nuts for a month)
etc.
the city is not french it's NAWLINS'
the quata is pseudo french but if you want paris go there, new orleans has her own beauty and amazing art architecture.........

NAWLINS', ha ha

Yes, exactly what I meant. Very funny. However, this "Frenchness" seems important to them. I was there in November and everywhere they had big posters wishing a JOYEUX NOEL. This was cute.

Edit : In French the correct name of the city is LA NOUVELLE ORLÉANS.
Orleans is the city of Joanne of Arc.

Eurosocialist · #34 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005

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Originally Posted by nougatmaster

po-boys cristos pat o's muffalletas ----fest
mardi gras, uptown, strippers hustlers, gumbo, sculpture, jesus, urine, heat,women,laughter.
heart
jackson square, congo square, louis, fats,
cash money records, no limit.white tees, black faces, black eyes, brightsmiles, tchoupitoulas, st. charles, streetcars.
the list goes on but remember to pronounce it......charters!

Exactly, I hope this all revives. It's unique to the otherwise dull US.

So does anyone know of any "katrina jazz fund" or something like it, specifically aimed at helping the (poor) musicians who lost everything?

Sucre · #35 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005

ES, this will not revive because this is not dead ...

A culture does not sink in water.

Eurosocialist · #36 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005

I agree, but NAWLIN's culture was so tied to a particular atmosphere in a very special city, the buildings, the streets, the old quarters... And now all these people are spread all over the US, ripped apart.

I hope that its culture is strong enough, but I have my doubts... the place itself is extremely important for New Orleans's culture... I hope I'm wrong.

Sucre · #37 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005

NO is not the first city in history, flooded ... or totally destroyed in a way or another . Europe is in fact the BEST example of devastated cities which came back to life again and again. I live in Berlin as one of the best examples ... Or Dresden.

I think NO will come to life again. It will be different and yet itself.

(As far as I am concerned, from what I know of the city, the only district I am really worried about in the Garden District ... Nothing to do with jazz, but wonderful colonial vilas. What's left of it ? )

Jefe · #38 (**permalink**) 09-08-2005

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Originally Posted by Eurosocialist

Exactly, I hope this all revives. It's unique to the otherwise dull US.

Yet another slam on the US?

How would you know anything about the "otherwise dull US" if you've never been here?

Yes, NO is unique to the US - there's really no other city like it here (and it will be rebuilt, BTW). However, we've got other cities that are far from dull.

Sure, we've got our fair share of endless suburbs and clean, shiny, boring cities. But to claim that all of the US, outside of New Orleans, is dull - when you've never even been here - is just silly.

OTOH, I'm glad to see you suporting the musicians.

Eurosocialist · #39 (**permalink**) 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by Jefe

I'm glad to see you suporting the musicians.

Sure, and if you know any kind of fundraising thingie specifically aimed at helping out musicians, plz let me know.

Are you a musician yourself?

Jefe · #40 (**permalink**) 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by Eurosocialist

Sure, and if you know any kind of fundraising thingie specifically aimed at helping out musicians, plz let me know.

Well, there's this:
http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/apparel.php
BTW, Preservation Hall is probably one of the most important Jazz spots in NO.

Quote:

Are you a musician yourself?

Sort of. But I'm not into Jazz. I play a bit of elec. guitar, rock, punk, metal, etc.

Eurosocialist · #41 (**permalink**) 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by Jefe

Well, there's this:
http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/apparel.php
BTW, Preservation Hall is probably one of the most important Jazz spots in NO.

Hey thanks a lot man, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thx.

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Originally Posted by Jefe

Sort of. But I'm not into Jazz. I play a bit of elec. guitar, rock, punk, metal, etc.

Keep it up.

Wishbone · #42 (**permalink**) 09-13-2005

There is more to culture than music. The muscial heritage of N.O. is over shadowed by the animalistic behavior of about 70% of the population. Most of the descendents of the people who built N.O. have moved to Jefferson Parish, the North Shore, Slidell or moved away completely because Orleans Parish has become unlivable do to the human garbage that festers in the city (and runs it too).

Louis Lingg · #43 (**permalink**) 09-17-2005

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Um, the French culture is where I'm sitting!! Actually, New Orleans was not the home of it.

Ben

Yeah Ben but the easy ain't gonna die the Parishes are still there and the affluent will just employ a new breed of urban renewal. Have a Pim's cup and grin.

Benjamin · #44 (**permalink**) 09-17-2005

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Originally Posted by Louis Lingg

Yeah Ben but the easy ain't gonna die the Parishes are still there and the affluent will just employ a new breed of urban renewal. Have a Pim's cup and grin.

What did that have to do with my post?

Can anyone translate?

Ben

Mrs. M · #45 (**permalink**) 09-17-2005

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Originally Posted by Jihad4Peace

I guess you never heard of Elvis?

And Rap is certainly not latin or catholic influenced.

And Rap not Jazz is what the kids want now.

New Orleans will recover. It was really never much more than ghettos, old mansions and cemetaries to begin with.

LOL, you've obviously not lived in or near New Orleans. There was many great things about the city in the not-so-distant past and this tragedy gives it the chance to rebuild itself into the great place it once was.
How's the song go? ....Nobody taught her that it takes a lot of water, to wash away New Orleans.

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