So how would you explain astronauts repairing satelites outside of the shuttle?

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Smoke and mirrors?

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Well I have read all the nonsense about how we didnt land on the moon and the evidence that supports it and i must say that anyone who actually believes it is not too bright.

The flag.....mmm one would think that when you place a flag in the ground on a moon that has 1/10th the gravity of earth the jerking and movement from putting the damn thing in the ground will make it flap.

solar radiation.... we do space walks right??? so why dont the astronauts after a space walk come back with high levels of radiation in there system???

thats just the begining of the squashing of these "theroies"

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Astronauts are operating under the Van Allen magnetic belt which is reducing 99.9 % of the deadly cosmic radiation entering the atmosphere (< 400 km) and the earth surface. Without such Van Allen belt and the atmosphere humans would die immediatelly on earth. In Moon there is no atmosphere and no magnetic belt and cosmic radiation is just killing (100 % from radiation compared with 0.1 % on earth). NASA has mentioned that the Apollo astronauts had radiation detectors and the figures were similar to earth (below working standards on earth). This is an evidence that they never went to Moon as the radiation figures should be just radically higher there.
Even the astronauts on low Earth orbit well below the protective zone are in danger whenever there are solar radiation bursts - and there is no protection - the capsule does not help - they would need 1-2 m thick led walls. How to explain this?

PS. Van Allen himself did not know much about the belt characteristics nominated according to him - he just made first predictions.

so the shadow analysis of pictures on the moon and other evidence is true... and my first name doesn't mean as much... sniff

I know in movie that when the lead actor says you go east, you go south, and I'll go west that it's all over for the other 2. And the joke about the cat as the helicopter comes (hold on ) flying up as he gets to the top of the cliff and the end of the joke is on him because the men in black catch him and kill him from the helicopter but the cat is saved in the joke.. The lead actor is saved and sprints across a field to his wife and the story ends..

I've been waiting for the sequal but they haven't made one..

I assume this footnote in your above post is a reply to my post #180 on this thread?

I am appalled that anyone could dismiss so flippantly a scientist of the calibre of Dr James Van Allen.

I will not let your remark to stand unanswered.

I do not have much scientific knowledge, but I know enough to determine that Dr James Van Allen is a distinguished expert in the field of cosmic radiation.

In answer to the FOX Moon landing hoax claim documentary, he said:

-- Dr. James Van Allen

Quoted in Environment - radiation and the van allen belts
Clavius: Environment - radiation and the van allen belts

Also see the Clavius: Environment - radiation primer for more information on cosmic radiation.
Clavius: Environment - radiation primer

Other resources on Dr James Van Allen:

In Memoriam: James A. Van Allen
by Stamatios "Tom" Krimigis
Emeritus Head, Applied Physics Laboratory, Johns Hopkins University
James A. Van Allen - Department of Physics and Astronomy - The University of Iowa

The James A. Van Allen Papers
CHRISTINE D. HALAS
Christine Halas on the James A. Van Allen Papers

U.S. Space Pioneer, UI Professor James A. Van Allen Dies
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RIP James Van Allen - I salute you.

Tethys

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Good night USPOLites...going to bed now.

Sleep in peace, Dr James Van Allen.

Tethys

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Tethys - it is funny that you found these "Clavius" pages from the net. These stories about radiation in moon travel are completely non-scientific. Text is also written in a absurd way. The text looks like scientific, but it is a complete lie. If this article is the best one to explain the radiation problem, I am 100 % sure that they never went to the moon. I refer some stupidities here.

"Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts"

They are above the poles. There are very funny explanations how the Apollo rockets went around the Van Allen belts - this is not even possible. In that case they had to go from the polar areas out and moon is circulating almost in earth equatorial orbit. However, they were in other connections explained to use the rockets in earth orbit to go to the moon orbit - not at first to a completely wrong direction and turning around (they did not have even energy for such a manouver).

"deadly radiation in the Van Allen belts, but the nature of that radiation was known to the Apollo engineers and they were able to make suitable preparations.!"

There is nothing to do for preparations! You must have a very thick heavy armor around you - and they didn't.

"Shielding" does not always mean thick slabs of dense material."

Unfortunately it did and still does. There was just a month ago an article in Nature about new materials against radiation - but such will not help much even in the future.

" Each astronaut wore a personal dosimeter."

And these showed safe earth-like figures which is just nonsense - compare radiation anounts of 100% on moon vs. 0.1 % on earth. This is ridiculous.

PS - Van Allen does not mention anything about Apollo and moon travel in his papers - see e.g. those linked below. Nor has Neal Armstrong ever mentioned that he has been on moon - he has never given a public interview. Only one where they said that they did not see any starts in the moon (which is a very ridiculous statement as well).

Bah, more "high" science.

Did you ever figure out how the flags were waving in the picture I posted, Analyst?

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Such a detail can any time be argued. I have been interested in major scientific errors in the Apollo information - such as:
- The altitude and size of earth seen from moon (up to 40 degrees errors / 50 % in size - very few pictures have earth in it because it can be a risky object)
- Dating the sky using positions of stars ... this is not possible as there are no visible stars even if they should be striking there.
- Identifying positions using illumination ... e.g. of earth (in some pictures we see full earth even if the position of moon was far away from such position).
- Radiation anomalies.
I am sure that the Apollo materials has been very much fabricated ... probably they did not have proper cameras that time as the head designer of Hasselblad said (his camera did not operate on moon temperatures of -150 ... + 180 C.
I don't want to say that the whole business was a hoax - I just want to point the fabricated materials.

This is a common error, but one any photographer knows about.

The photos were metered to properly expose the close up, well lit items. The stars did not show up - as one would expect.

Another example (of many) of your "inconsistencies" that have very simple explanations.

Matt

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My guess would be that the extremely low gravity makes the flag waving for several minutes (or more) before it stops and hangs down.

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Then you are also saying that all the gigantic Saturn-V rockets were drones.

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