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Old 01-16-2007
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Re: The moon landing

I started testing my own mind. I tried to put out the UFO experiences I had been having.. They continued over my house. I could hear the hum nightly. They wanted me to know they were there.. One night I decided to face my fear and I saw the UFO that I saw a year ago. This time it was accompanied by 2 chinook helicopters with their lights out..

One night I was talking in my mind to the sky using a code word only I know and I spoke in telepathy with a ufo. I was trying to provoke an incidence. I saw 3 extremely large anvil shaped purple UFOs in formations come from the horizon, stoped in front me at a distance in the night sky, and leave at my bidding. This was perhaps one of the greatest UFO occurances. Laugh if you want.. At least in my mind it happened..

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I think the government is more evil than any alien being.
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Ok dude....i thought you were some kind of a scientific ufo researcher but now you are coming off as a nut....

I have seen a real UFO before and after i saw it i took an interest into the UFO thing....Your story sounds like you have MIB's after you and i dont know if i buy it......i mean i know what i saw was real and i dont bring it up unless the subject is broght up and even then i dont know if i feel comfortable with talking about what i had seen. dude i think you have seen toomany x files re runs....please disreguard my message.

Ok I'm sorry you feel that way.. Two black chinook helicopters with lights out beside a ufo in the middle of an empty desert is not an episode of the x-files.. Not too long later of the incident I learned of Pheonix lights incident and new I was not alone. The orginal UFO that I saw was caught on tape. If you want to know that story I have no reason to hide it.. I was playing pool at a friends house.. Two of his relatives (children) interupted a game and I went outside at their request.. I saw an orange ball shaped object come from the East horizon. It was at a high altitude and distant.. I laughed it off and was going to go back in and finish the pool game and was ready to write it off as a slowmoving helicopter with a spot light. The children said to please wait and I continued to watch. It came from East to west at a very subtle speed... It slowly decreased in altitude.. When it started to get close it began to gain in altitude.. It was hard to say at what distance. I'd say at ruffly a 3/4 of a mile away and several thousand feet in the air.. It began to slowly climb.. Suddenly it unfolded while climbing.. Here we are lookin at 2 organge objects. I can see shadows of the structure and it's brightly lite orange. A piece of it arcs like a welder and the arc lights up falling to the ground and burns out.. It starts to pick up speed. We watch and watch it.. It gets to the edge of the horizon above us and suddenly just (how do say this) shoots up into deep space at speeds unknown to anyone.. It just shot into deep space.. It did not vere off light rockets pow right through the atmosphere Zooming into space and out of sight... I try to tell people but everyone thinks I'm nut's.. Some people partially believe me but when I get into the details they act like I'm wacked........ After that event I began studing technology... Really studying it.. This did not make my life any easier by the way.. After some time and lots of study and the creation of my UFO site I begin to get visits.. That's when I saw it for the 2nd time and this time it was in a differnt state. I tried to say everything inbetween the 1st sighting and the 2nd sighting were ufo's and I really fine tuned my skills. I have a new awareness for them now and now I don't think of what I saw as out of some stupid movie....

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I started having strange dreams and strange things that happened to me in my childhood started to come back to me.. Now they don't seem so strange and yes it's kind of scary too but I've learned to deal with it but at least I deal with it at a conscious level.. Is that what makes me crazy?
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Originally I was begining to accept that I was nuts --- at least that was an easier course or was it.. As I questioned more and more I began to realize there's the deep state of denial society has. Luckily for the travel channel and ufo shows I kept my sanity and realized I had a special gift or else they wouldn't have re-visited me. I have no reason to tell you someone elses sightings I've had my own.. I've studied them for a deeper understanding.. You would too.. Once it happens there's a need to know.
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One day I ran accross the very ufo I saw.. unfortunatly they did not capture the capabilities that I had saw.. Nevertheless their it was on telivision the orange UFO I saw the exact type.. I was in one way very happy but another part of me was very mad for the way I was made to feel crazy by this society. See how they are..
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Then one day stanton friedman emailed me.. I had heard of him and he sent me a letter of moral support after visiting my old ufo site.
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Originally I was begining to accept that I was nuts --- at least that was an easier course or was it.. As I questioned more and more I began to realize there's the deep state of denial society has. Luckily for the travel channel and ufo shows I kept my sanity and realized I had a special gift or else they wouldn't have re-visited me. I have no reason to tell you someone elses sightings I've had my own.. I've studied them for a deeper understanding.. You would too.. Once it happens there's a need to know.
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In the US especially they try to make you feel stupid by their little green men mentality. Like I'm some kind of mental pervert for seeing what I saw... Hell with you people! You know what the true sickness it? You people can't accept the truth.
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I really think USPOL should have a conspiracy section. But before I go into the wacko world, is it some sort of collective reasoning that grand conspiracies can not exist; are just out and out impossible like a aquare circle despite suspicious and unanswerable evidence?

Here are some interesting links that propose that the lunar landing on the moon was fake:

Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?

and:

The Moon Shots Were Faked

Do you remember the James Bond movie "Diamonds Are Forever"? If you have seen this movie you may remember a scene where Mr. Bond, James Bond tries to escape the clutches of evil henceman through a scientific space research facility. He runs into a room that looks like a studio set up to be a lunar landscape with slow motion actors in moon suits and the whole bit. I thought that was sorta funny. Anyway, I'm kinda swayed to believe there is a better than good chance we have been duped. And if it one day, somehow, came out that it was fake, I'm almost positive that I would have one of the best laughs I had in a long time.

Can't leave out partisan hackery:

Bush could learn a lot about public duplicity from that good 'ol administration!

I just cannot think of a reason not to go to the moon. Why spend money faking real rocket launches when it is physically and technically possible just to go to the moon in the first place?

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Please stay on topic. This thread is about the moon landing, not about UFO experiences. If you want to discuss UFO stuff, please start a new thread. Thanks.
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I just cannot think of a reason not to go to the moon. Why spend money faking real rocket launches when it is physically and technically possible just to go to the moon in the first place?
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There are several technical problems to go to the moon - as e.g.:

- Huge amount of energy needed. Saturn-5 was planned to lift space station to a low earth orbit - for moon travel you need maybe 5-10 times more energy (by comparison, planetary satellites are very small ones).
- Radiation risk, Van Allen belt and cosmic radiation on moon. The space scientists say that one meter thick lead shielding is necessary.
- The stability of moon landing capsule. The one like Eagle failed all the test on earth because it was instabile even if had much longer legs where the jets were. Very quick computer guided jets must be developed. Imagine to make landing with a rocket - it will turn over immediatelly.
- Pressure and temperature requirements in clothing are very demanding (temp can vary 330 C degrees in shadow vs. sunshine).
- Cooling system for capsule. The landing capsule would become terribly hot and cooling needs much energy.
- etc.
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There are several technical problems to go to the moon - as e.g.:

- Huge amount of energy needed. Saturn-5 was planned to lift space station to a low earth orbit - for moon travel you need maybe 5-10 times more energy (by comparison, planetary satellites are very small ones).
- Radiation risk, Van Allen belt and cosmic radiation on moon. The space scientists say that one meter thick lead shielding is necessary.
- The stability of moon landing capsule. The one like Eagle failed all the test on earth because it was instabile even if had much longer legs where the jets were. Very quick computer guided jets must be developed. Imagine to make landing with a rocket - it will turn over immediatelly.
- Pressure and temperature requirements in clothing are very demanding (temp can vary 330 C degrees in shadow vs. sunshine).
- Cooling system for capsule. The landing capsule would become terribly hot and cooling needs much energy.
- etc.
But obviously they are not technical obstacles that can't be overcome. Im not a scientist and i can imagine several possible solutions to all those problems.

Anyway the launches were public and several thousand people watched them, so again, why would they go to all the trouble of building and launching massive rockets into space and not just go to the moon in the first place?

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You know what I find incredible? This is the 240th post to this ridiculous thread.
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