And this one will make 16 of those posts that are mine!

Come on, I think every political forum on the Internet has at least one Moon landing conspiracy thread, JP.

But I think I've exhausted all my arguments here.

Tethys

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NASA has predicted that within the next ten years these problems can be overcome and they have plans to establish a research station to moon - which is the easiest way to go as such base would give protection and security as well. Computers is not the core problem but energy and shielding.

The Apollo landings were real, but the crews had secret military missions on a low earth orbit. They were buiding a spy station and worked for military space shield - star wars project. Saturn-5 rocket was designd for transportation to low-earth orbit - not to planetary flights leaving earth's gravity.

The frauds I have seen in the Apollo materials are very serious. Of course we can say that only the materials were fake but the fligjhts were done. I cannot accept this explanation if NASA is not willing to apologize the fraud.

The way how they imitated Earth from the distance by filming the window of the dark capsule was awkward. And tha way how the astronauts reacted when this was revealed was criminal. For me, the strongest evidence that the pictures are fake is that earth seen from the moon is very much too small and completely in a wrong place. Even if the photographer wanted to avoid errors by leaving stars out and avoided earth also (cloud pattern could have revealed the day of photo), he did not understand that earth is always in a same position seen from moon - there are no earth rises and down because moon keeps its same face towards earth all the time.

One serious error is the publishing of Apollo 17 picture from the earth. It was FULL earth indicating that the rocket went towards the sun - which again means that the moon was between earth and sun. However all the landing sites were on this site visible to earth and during moon's day time. So this situation is impossible - the landing site was in complete darkness if the earth picture was taken from Apollo and only after 10 days situation was possible. Actually - the earth picture is exactly similar that the then new weather satellites took from the altitude of 36.000 km. Why they made such orchestrations?

Here are some interesting points on the Apollo program. It is interesting that Neil Armstrong has never said to have been on the moon - other way round - he has denied that. Actually, he has never given any interviews - only one at a school where he mentioned that he has described how to go to the moon and now the kids must once do that in reality.

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After WW II, ex-Nazis were not very popular in the U.S. Especially war criminals like Wernher von Braun. If he was to lead the Pentagon space program, he would need an image overhaul. This is where Walt Disney entered the picture. Disney had a snow white image and nobody would suspect him of working with SS Nazis rocketeers.
The Pentagon desperately needed money to build ICBM's and rockets that would be able to deliver weapons of mass destruction to the Soviet Union.
If Walt Disney could simulate a moon landing in a studio (much cheaper), then the $20 billion dollars which Congress appropriated for the moon landing could be used to fight the Cold War with the Soviet Union instead!!
The space race and the Vietnam War would also DISTRACT the people while Rockefeller stole the Presidency without an election.
President Kennedy and NASA administrator James T. Webb at the launch Operations Complex during a tour of NASA in Nov. 1963. Did Kennedy decide to talk about von Braun and his fake moon landing? If he had, this was another reason for Rockefeller and the Pentagon to order his assassination!!
And another quote from moonstruck Neil Armstrong:
"As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say—and it's a great surprise to me that I have never had a dream about being on the moon. It's a great disappointment to me." (Wagener, One Giant Leap, p. 303).

General Leslie "Dick" Groves

Correction: In my previous post I say "The Apollo landings were real..." I actually mean The Apollo launches were real...

In "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" at the 30 minute 38 second mark it is alleged that slow motion is used to simulate moon gravity.
YouTube - A funny thing happened on the way to the moon

Look at the movements in this clip.
YouTube - Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage

I can see the difference. In some footage "Slow motion" was used. In some footage "Wire supports" were used. The body movements are noticeably different.

Here's some more stuff I've collected.
Man didnt land on the moon - Google Video
http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm

What Happened on the Moon - 1 of 2 - Google Video
What Happened on the Moon - 2 of 2 - Google Video

Astronauts Gone Wild - Google Video

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon - Google Video

This has seven parts
YouTube - APOLLO 11 Most Miserable Press Conference in History Part 1

Apollo details

YouTube - Flight Director Gene Kranz says Apollo 11 telemetry gone.

The people who made those videos did make a few mistakes but I think those videos pretty much prove that we never went to the moon.

Here's some very clear proof that we never went to the moon.

YouTube - Apollo 15 waving flag
2 minute 35 second mark.

The flag moves after the astronaut walks past it. He doesn't touch it. The flag moves because of air current.

There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.
YouTube - Moon Hoax- Apollos Atmospheric Moon

The obvious answer is he touched it as he walked by. You have no possible way of proving that no contact was made, which is what your entire idea relies upon.

Can you show me that he did not touch it?

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LOL...seriously? You use the word "analysis" quite loosely.

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Look Bozo. I was part of the making of the LEM- Lunar Excursion Module. It went to the moon buddy boy!

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I look forward to the day that the rest of the world is involved in this "conspiracy". After all with lasers you can basically bounce light off the spacecraft/rovers left up there. There are already two moon probes up there at this very moment, and two more go up next year. Then five more between 2010 and 2013. With the only US one being in 2008.

So let the moon landing conspiracy continue beyond just the US, because every nation in the world is going to lie to us. Them pesky government and their dirty dirty lies. Either way, I wish this nonsense would be silenced one way or another, but at the same time I know people will always always believe what they want. Which is what is wrong with this country, instead of facts and ideas based on truth, we put more stock in belief. Belief that the world is melting, belief that the world is a few thousand years old, and in the end you have so much garbage that it can be hard to see through to the truth.

Could be it was hit by a micrometeorite, too...

Look at the size of the astronat's arm when he's close to the flag and then again when he walks by it at the 2 minute 5 second mark. His arm is quite a bit bigger showing he was much closer to the camera.
Also, if you double-click quickly on the mouse to make it go frame by frame, it's clear that he doesn't touch it. He must be three feet from it.

YouTube - Apollo 15 waving flag

About all this fake moon landing stuff. If it were fake the first time, then what about the Saturn V rocket they launched, and the astronauts onboard it?

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Fake. Directed by George Lucas, actually.

It's all done with smoke and mirrors, you know.

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