So we landed on the moon big deal. There are an infinite amount of problems on Earth besides for stupid pet tricks and jerks with infinite power over the populous. All the investments into empty space should be spent in nano technology to research diseases and alternative fuels without a dime of it being thrown away for stupid feats to defy nature and impress the exhibitionist freaks. But that's the "American Dream" isn't it, to be dumber than a bag of rocks floating in space with power or pretending to be watching the idiot screen while profiteers in big industries and big government flood world in a chemical health-hazard cesspool of diseases. Of course everything is graded on a curb in the US so it all looks good then the foreign scientist are paid to do the research and are actually intelligent. The dirt of course gets past to the next generation who has to lie better than the last generation because their parents wouldn't tell them the truth of why everythings so screwed up and why their all too druged up to face reality.

Well here is yet another person to ignore.

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Indeed, talk about pessimistic.

Man is by nature an explorer and will risk his life to do so. When exploration is denied, the soul turns inward and starts to consume its core, as we see in today's society. Man needs "Heroes", those that will risk all to advance his knowledge of the Universe we live in.

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Did you ever see "The Truman Show"? The Moon is just a backlit control room high above.

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What I find amusing is the people that insist the shuttle program has been a failure because of the two accidents. There have been 114 launches of the most sophisticated craft ever built I think and in those 114 launcheds only two accidents. Now that is two to many, but no one ever said life was safe. We are pioneers, perhaps more than any other society on the planet, we go to space because it is there.

The US in its history of space launches has had 1,152 launches with 164 failures, or a 93.6% success rate. The ESA has had 117 launches with 12 failures or a 95.6% rate. The differene is the US was one of two countries that pioneered space launch capability, and most of our failures came in the years 1957 to 1966 when the technology was still being developed. The ESA however didn't have to go through that trial and error process, they could copy either the US or Russian programs and learn from their failures. So given that the fact that the ESA has only got a success rate of 2% better than the US doesn't really say that much does it. Of course the ESA has never killed an astronaut either. Why, becuase they have never tried to launch an astronaut on one of their own vehicles. They prefer to hitch rides with either the US or Russians.

So those of you that are so highly critical of the US program, put up or shut up. ( I mean that with all due respect)

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Don't forget that they were built by the lowest of three bidders.

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Built by a committee, underfunded, and overused. NASA can only do so much, and the shuttle is a remarkable achievement despite everything. Still, it just goes to prove that even with all our genius, we still fall short. Not because lack of capability, but because we can't seem to agree on anything as a whole. Which is why true space pioneering wont come until it falls upon those few people who have the money and power to do so (After all, the shuttle has mostly been used for military purposes for a great many of those flights).
Of course, I'm not saying that the shuttle is a failure either, I'm just saying that its an example of the best we can do collectively without the most primal of drives, fear (Like the moon race). Amazing acomplishment, and I look forward to tomorrow, even if most of American seems to take those shuttle flights for granted (Or at least they did, maybe 2003 changed that?). Well, that is if we don't get another delay. Which everybody who cares groans about, even if it is for the sake of safety. Which reminds me, hopefully the future pioneers can do something NASA hasn't been able to, make getting off this earth a trivial task (Otherwise, we're going nowhere).

That’s where the moonbat title came from for the young democratic socialist party. They totally flipped when there coverage of the anti-war protests “at it’s height” was replaced with patriotism, fascination and faith in mankind.
The movie Capricorn One (Wasn’t O.J. Simpson in that?) was a conditioning technique like Syriana, The day After Tomorrow, China syndrome ect. To expand and solidify there power base.
Watch trailer: http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movie...html?v_id=8071

I assure all that Russia was keeping a close eye on the Apollo missions.
Funny. The conspiracy plants came from within our own country and not our
enemies.

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Only a liberal would know how hard it is to get a nicotine patch to stick to a monkey.

We’ve had 3 mishaps in 700 space flights in almost 50 years. You would have to stand on a chair to try and believe these Ward Churchill’s.

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Only a liberal would know how hard it is to get a nicotine patch to stick to a monkey.

Ok! This is what I'm talking about. You guy are measuring NASA's success not on the tremendous leaps and discoveries it has found but rather by the small percentage of spectacular explosions.
Gort mentioned that 96% (95.6%) of launches have been successful. I say when dealing with the amount of money, the public exposure, the national pride, the importance of whatever research that was vaporized, and the human life lost, that is too high. WAIT! NASA is an exact science, their business is numbers. 96% probability, 4% guessing ain't NASA and it ain't science-as we'd like to think- but somehow NASA managed to land on the moon; something no other nation has been able to do, rather they have been satisfied to take Americans word that "there's nothing to see here".

It is impossible for our government to lie on such a global scale? All I can say is many Americans think many things are "impossible" but in the next ten years we will not only see how possible many things can be but also how delusional we are as a society.

This "the government would never do this" mentality is unreasonable, you've got to wake up. I mean, whatever new technology we have or have seen, the government has been privy to it for a few years. And the new technology the government has now is the "next level shit" to us and you'd be a fool to think otherwise. Still they have yet to do something, in the space program, as awe inspiring as landing on the moon over thirty years ago!!

Yes. America went from the Wright Flyer to nuclear power and the moon in a single generation. It’s almost as though something happened in the 1960s to stagnate society or something…
On the other hand, I’m sitting here on the edge of my chair watching the Shuttle coverage and will run outside to see it from my back yard when it reaches 27,000 feet.
A warm feeling of pride and achievement you should share with this magnificent marvel of mans creation and existence.

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Only a liberal would know how hard it is to get a nicotine patch to stick to a monkey.

What are you suggesting or implying?

Aww man. You just triggered a repressed memory from my childhood of this nun who used to pick on me…

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Actually we have had three mishaps with people. There have been 164 accidents of some kind or other since 1957.

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu