Exactly. You'd have to believe that a group of people could be so evil that they'd turn their backs on their nation and murder their own people, yet so completely trustworthy and loving of their fellow man that they'd never blow their secret...

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Very well said.

Thank goodness all the new posts in here are just pointing out how a moon landing conspiracy is ridiculous. I thought we were going to have to tear down all the convoluted 'arguments' of a massive conspiracy. Not that it's difficult to shred apart, but this conspiracy theory is just one of those things that absolutely bewilders me that otherwise intelligent people can believe.

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Actually it originated as propaganda “when the race to the moon” took the press away from the alleged anti-war movement. (Alleged meaning these movements are only focused toward America instead of Aggressors.)

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Threads like this is one of the many reasons why you cant take some Liberals seriously.

Something to think about.

Personally I don't have enough data to draw a conclusion, but I have been involved in space research long time and also with Russian experts. The Russians say even in a French film that it took 2 hours for them to see that the videos and pictures from moon were fake. The Hasselblad camera could not have worked in the conditions there. The Russians said that the films have been taken in the area 45 km NW from the Area 51 (military base) which they saw in their military satellite images. There you can see the Moon landscape if you use Google Earth now. 37°28'32.46"N / 116°13'31.76"W. There is also a film, where the earth is small and round and explained to be from half-way to the moon, but then they put lights on and the earth is actually the shape of the window which made the globe and in reality they were in a low orbit around the earth. Why they did this fake film? Van Allen radiation is so enormous that a man cannot travel from the vicinity of the earth with light protection what they had then.

Then there is the documentary film (Dark Side of the Moon; William Karel, 2002) where many high US officers (Kissinger, Haig, Rumsfeld, some NASA officers, astronauts Aldrin & Hoffman, Russian space experts, Kubrick's wife, etc) describe the competition situation with Soviets and tell how Nixon said "if you cannot make it - fake it". And the movie director Kubrick was asked to fake it. I have the film, but don't know if this is in the net. Anyway it is mentioned in the Wikipedia (moon landing hoax pages) - but somehow not respected (it is mentioned to be imagination as well) - the message of the film is clear and real, however. The experts said that only few people did know the hoax and even the NASA staff was watching the film earlier taken from the Area 51. Why don't we ask questions from NASA?

Moon Hoax Documentary
Sceptics:
Point du Jour - Programmes
Wikipedia ref:
Dark Side of the Moon (documentary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Not respected?!!? AMAZING!

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Lucky for all those conspirers then that someone else popped over to the moon to acquire the rocks from there, which have without question -as they have been examined by geologists from all over the planet- originated in an oxygen free, low gravity and inorganic environment, like uhmm, the moon.

BTW, did you really believe all the Soviet propaganda during the cold war ?

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My brothers Brother-IN Law was with NASA from 1966 to 1992, and he has been on the Shuttle Launch team! They went to the Moon, despite any wacko Conspiracy bullshit you hear! It would have taken something so elaborate that its unimaginable, including having all the Media in on this, and for the Russians to turn off their Radar, as they tracked the mission!

I have heard crap like they staged this at Area 51 or some spot in the desert, but wacko's will come up with anything for attention!

I'm sorry to tell you but that "documentary" was actually a mockumentary, made by french filmmakers and in the end where the credits rolled there was clipped takes that revealed that all those people in the mockumentary had a script to read from. (it was shown in Finland on April the 1st...) The thing that really made an impression on me in that mockumentary wasa that all those politicians lied so easily, and spoke exactly in the same manner they do in real documentaries.. one can really never know when they are lying and when not.

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It is definitely clear for people nowdays that Americans never been on the Moon.

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There was one documentary I saw where Aleksei Leonov was interviewd on the lunar landing issue, and he remembered celebrating the american achievement back in 1969 by applauding and then going for a few drinks at a bar with his friends. He didn't think that the lunar landing was fake.

I know that Leonov tells that american moon landing wasn't fake, but he can't be trusted. He is not an expert in this sphere, he's just a pilot and old soviet celebrity, nothing more.

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This has been explained so that the NASA people (including von Braun) went to Antarctica to pick meteorites just 1-2 yrs before the moon landing program. There the huge continental ice captures meteorites and then the ice transports them to its edge and one can find hundreds of meteorites at the edge - a big part of them are moon-type ... and many stones in moon are from asteroid belt.

I know well that the film I was talking about has been called mocumentary by some people - but many people believe that the contents is serious ... how such important political and scientific figures would play in grazy sketches. Probably the film director did not believe what the experts said and therefore he added the jokes to the end. And many other similar films have been prepared where NASA and USSR experts, astro/kosmonauts and scientists are saying exactly the same thing.

As I said, I myself don't have enough data to draw conclusions, but as a scientist I don't believe in things which violate the laws of nature. If there are fake materials, I will be even more suspicious. You can easily twist my arm if you have better evidence.

We were very much used to hear governmental bull** during the Soviet times and therefore it has been very easy for us to understand the same problem in USA, where people believe in the "official theories" exactly like in USSR in 1960s. The Soviets had very similar institutions for propaganda what are today in USA. I have learnt to respect independent scientists and media people more ... they are the most critical ones and don't take anything without analysing the background.

If you think that USSR opposed the idea that americans landed on the moon, than you are mistaken. I have many soviet sources in electronic and printed variants, like Big Soviet Encyclopedia, Child Encyclopedia published in 70's, other books on austronomia and school textbooks, where american moon landing is not disputed and given as fact. USSR officials and scientists didn't impugn american moon landing.

And i personally believed that americans really were on the moon. I was told that in the school on the lessons. That was told me as the fact without hesitation. And after soviet collapse (i was 10 at this time) some western books that were not been available in soviet time became available. I've read the book of american author (don't remember his name), where were published materials, facts and photos that prove that americans has never been on the moon.

So i just want to say the USSR's officials and scientists never disputed hypothetical american moonlanding.

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