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Old 10-31-2006
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Re: Religions and violence

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Ergo, GWBush's administration has a religious crusade going on in Iraq?

They believe they can win, yet they cannot prove it. Ergo, it is a religion according to you Rick Blaine.

Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

Rick Blaine, I'd recommend not citing any quotations from my posts. I'm trying hard to be polite, but I'm losing patience. If you don't cite my posts, I won't bother you at all.

But if you cite my post, I'll be back at ya.

^ Mr. Michael thinks throwing around insults to inflate his ego make him right when he is most certainly wrong?

Odd but funny.

I have found when there is nothing left, Liberals collapse into childish insults while forming circle jerks with other Liberals and masturbating their egos way too much.

Messy.

Luckily im smarter and understand history enough to know that religion and politics always blend, especially Atheism, the most vile and self destructive religon in history clinging to the coat tails of Communism to force their nothing religion on the unsuspecting masses.

Your thoughts?
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Old 11-01-2006
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Re: Religions and violence

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I have found when there is nothing left, Liberals collapse into childish insults while forming circle jerks with other Liberals and masturbating their egos way too much.

Messy.

Luckily im smarter and understand history enough to know that religion and politics always blend, especially Atheism, the most vile and self destructive religon in history clinging to the coat tails of Communism to force their nothing religion on the unsuspecting masses.

Your thoughts?
Bemused giggles.

You are now reminding me of Simon the Jester (a long-since banned member).
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Bemused giggles.
My thoughts as well.
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Like all those who ignorantly oppose atheists, yon protagonist seems not to understand that those who claim their religion is real and the correct one are the ones who are required to offer proof or its existence. After all, they are stating something is real. If they propose that some god or other exists, then offer proof.

Atheism is simply the response of someone who says "I don't see any logic or proof in your argument." Atheists have nothing to prove. They are only stating that the theists have not presented any proof of their wild claims and assertions of supernatural powers or events.

If you claim there is a god or gods, prove that claim. That is the essence of atheism; a belief in the abject lack of such proof.
No, what you describe is agnosticism.

Atheism is the positive belief there is no god, not the belief you cannot prove a god exists.
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Re: Religions and violence

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"I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq."
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No, what you describe is agnosticism.

Atheism is the positive belief there is no god, not the belief you cannot prove a god exists.
Good gosh this thread is degenerating.

I don't know who's more mixed up, the posters trying to paint atheism as evil or those trying to defend atheism against the charge.

Seems like a heck of a lot of political disinformation campaigns are going on here.

For anyone remotely concerned with actual terms, a-theism is an objection against theism which can be understood to represent "the Church" or formal heirarchies of religion, and/or theology.

The term has no reference to God at all.

And it is not a "belief" system at all.
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For anyone remotely concerned with actual terms, a-theism is an objection against theism which can be understood to represent "the Church" or formal heirarchies of religion, and/or theology.

The term has no reference to God at all.
I'm not sure what usage you're relying on here, but just for the sake of etymology, theism is derived from the Greek theos meaning "god", not "the Church".
Atheism can be derived directly from the Greek atheos or "no god".

More pratically, in common usage "atheist" (at least in all my experience) is used to describe someone who believes there is no God (or are no gods).
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