The days of William the Treasoner Clinton and his band of Criminals, killing over 175 innocents, when the Sheriff could have easily arrested Koresh, was possibly the start of the future!!

Billy is gone, but is looming around and Wifey and other Stalinists are still here, caring only for themselves and their AGENDA! Billy showed them how to murder Political Associates and then commit wholesale murder in Waco, and get away with it!

He showed them that Red China and N.Korea has a warm bed for all Traitors, and CNN also knows the way!

The Stalinsts love their easy access to Abortion so much they have conjured up Stem Cell, in an effort to be the EXCLUSIVE Cloners, and eventual Euthanizers of unborns, the Weak, and possibly the Old, so scum like Babawa Striesand, the clintons, Kennedys and all Liberal trash, may live off the sacrifices of Human Beings!!

Does this sound HARSH?? Believe me I can get worse, as I been in America over 60 years, am a Veteran, I believe in Christ, not Church Doctrine, my Family is raised and doing well with no problems, and are Mature Adults! I feel good about that, even I have had it tough in life, I never whined, excepted a dime in charity, and if one job didn't do the trick, I got TWO!!

I will in all honesty tell you that I have not seen a sicker bunch of people in my life than the current crop of Un American Stalinists out there today!!

Watch you back as that is where the cowards will attack you!!



HITLER HAD HIS OVENS.....STALINISTS HAVE ABORTION!

The waco problem was well on it's way before Clinton was president. The Fact that he and Janet Reno didn't put a stiop to it, was in my opinion Clintons first great mistake. He simply let it happen. but pray tell, how does this relate to Stalinism???

You're kind of all over the map there, buddy. Is there any point to this meandering rant besides the fact that you oppose abortion?

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

What he is trying to say is that the horrible act of the American government killing innocent American lives including women and children MUST be revisited.

It must be revisited in light of Bush's complete butchery of the Great Writ.

As most of you spoke and debated Habeas Corpus weeks ago, it is again dead and forgotten of what we have lost. What we lost was a pillar in democracy that can and will crumble the foundation of what we once considered America. Yes, past tense. The documents forged by our forefathers are no longer upheld in today's America. This is a different America and it was changing when Clinton was put into office. Bush only continued what Clinton did.

There is still no closure in Waco, TX and Bush signing paper that voids Habeas Corpus only opens these wounds back up as it should.

What you saw in Waco, TX you can expect to happen more often. What you saw in Waco, TX is a eyepiece peering into the future of this country.

He's saying that this infraction on our civil liberties not benign and it will bleed into more laws and injected into a changed society.

What happened in Waco, TX is the second most important event in our nation's entire history. We have had foreign attacks and war with other nations. Those are important, but the fundamental identity of our nation became a cracked mirror after the event in Waco, TX.

You have already fogotten Waco, TX long ago without putting any closure. The destruction of the Great Writ is already long forgotten as well. Then another event will occur and we again forget to connect the dots.

That's why years from now you will be standing on rubble that was once your home oblivious the past and not able to put the pieces together and your eyes will echo the bewilderment of your voice as you ask yourself "How did we get here?"

I guess one good meandering rant deserves another.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

But you don't give opinions drgoodtrips. You work exclusively in judging other's posts.

What's your opinion on Waco, TX? Since we're all mindless flamers, then please discard the judge's garb and gavel and start offering your own opinions rather than just thread hopping looking for people to call crazy.

I'll offer opinions on matters, but I'm not going to bother with meandering rants any more than I would respond to a post in a language that I don't speak. I also find it interesting that you would respond warmly to the OP, given that it seems to be nothing more than calling all liberals "Baby-murdering Stalinists".

I was pretty young at the time, but the government's use of force seemed excessive to me.

Only if you promise to stop thread hopping with hysterical rants.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Okay, now we're getting to the meat and potatoes.

So why do you use the word seem? What is it? Seemed excessive? Was it or was it not? I'd like your opinion and not given a choice of options of what we think your saying.

You're not saying either or, you're saying maybe. Why?

As I stated in my last post I consider Waco to be Clintons' first and worst mistake of his presidency. But actually it is just the beginning of a totalitarian. takeover by by law enforcement. Waco was ATF, FBI, and DEA involved plus others. but don't forget the others like Jonestown, Ruby ridge, 5th and normandy riots . etc. and it has esculated into unconstitutional bills like the last three. that Bush just signed. It is indeed just the beginning unless we can curtail it.

This sounds like Rush Limbaugh using Kim Dong Il's speechwriter and a bad translater.

Koresh could have walked out and surrendered, When the cops say "come out or we'll shoot", what do you think happens if you don't come out?

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

The thread stopped....eerie silence....

Where did Ironman Jack and conform go?

Maybe they cancelled each other out and vanished into a hole in the space-time continuum?

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

Bush-Waco.....Waco-Bush .......buy a fucking almanac , willya?

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Mr. Obama, please release the UFO files!

I think Ironman is a fake. He's the alter ego of one of our leftist posters having a little fun at our expense.

And of course You are so Wordly, as Olberman and Franken fill you in Daily on what to say, and like a sock-puppet you follow along verbatim!

I have seen changes over the years, but none like the Liberal-Stalinist onslaught against the Family and Church, cumulating with OVER-KILL in Waco! I'm not a fan of Cults either, BUT this could have been handled far better, and Clinton proved Murder should never stand in the way of Gain!

A few years ago the ACLU Supreme Ct Judge Ginsberg stood by and Voted to allow Eminent Domain, which I am sure one so Worldly as You will understand completely??

Oh Wait!! We have had Eminent Domain for Years right? Well guess what its PRIVATE now! If IBM or some large Corp. decided they like your Property, but you wish to not sell, tehn it becomes OR ELSE! PRIVATE RIGHTS being stripped away by the LEFT, using the Courts, Clinton wanted to send a message to any Church base opposing him or his Commie friends!

Counter this with your arguments, or are you just another naive punk Liberal sheep who speaks on command??

Get tough America... watch your backs, especially dealing with the Ultra Lib-Stalinists!!

I suspect OUR Lives don't revolve around Forums, like Yours! Do you have a point or do you like to see yourself in print! Ask your mother to give you a Mans name, OK Timmy!!