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Old 12-17-2006
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"Holocaust" numbers

A question about Holocaust numbers (not an anti-semitic post)

I just want a simple answer if i'm wrong or right. Are my calculations correct. If they are, then is this possible ?

"Holocaust" numbers-

2000 days X 24 hours X 60 minutes X 60 seconds

That is 172,800,000 seconds

Divided by 6,000,000

One Jew, identified, detained, "arrested", transported, killed, and body disposed of every

30 seconds

Please check the math-I think it is correct?
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Old 12-17-2006
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

It was murder on an industrial scale. To the six million you must add the many more millions of non-jewish non-Aryans also murdered. One every 30 seconds must have been a quiet day.
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Old 12-17-2006
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

Jessie asked,
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If they are, then is this possible ?
Yes, perfectly possible, unfortunately. Remember most of the Jews were simply starved to death and the bodies shoveled into crematoriums or mass graves by other starving prisoners. No need for miracle killing machines.
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Old 01-25-2007
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As it’s turned out, now we, Jews, have two public enemies: Iran and Estonia. Both of them try to review total results of WW2. Iran openly denies Holocaust, demonstrating its opinion during specially organized conference.
As to Estonia, its leadership has recently adopted the law, which sets the stage for the dismantling of monuments to Soviet fighters against fascism and protecting and restoring graves of fascist occupants in Estonia. It is clear that all this means the full governmental support of nationalist and extremely right movements there.
It leads to only one thing: resurgence of fascism. And there is no surprise for me, resident of Estonia, that Estonians have already begun to put vexations upon Jews. In contrast to Iranians they show us as if they act on behalf of EU!
But why does EU keep silence in this case?!
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Old 01-25-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

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As to Estonia, its leadership has recently adopted the law, which sets the stage for the dismantling of monuments to Soviet fighters against fascism and protecting and restoring graves of fascist occupants in Estonia. It is clear that all this means the full governmental support of nationalist and extremely right movements there.
It is always difficult for an occupier to put monuments to a foreign country, Do you think that they will have a monument for Bush in Bagdad - maybe just to be able to humiliate that. This has also happened in Estonia and that is one reason they want to move it away.

Of course the Russians believe that they had a right to stay in Estonia and Estonians think that Soviet Union was an agressive occupier. And as shown afterwards, the Estonians would have been in better hands with the Germans.... but the best option was of course independence like in Finland.

People will make monuments to remember some good thing from the past - not to remember a sad thing which they want to forget.
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Old 01-25-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

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It was murder on an industrial scale. To the six million you must add the many more millions of non-jewish non-Aryans also murdered. One every 30 seconds must have been a quiet day.
Absolutely true!
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Old 01-25-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

If you figure that around 54 million people were killed during the war that comes out to one death every 3.2 seconds.
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Old 01-25-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

It's true. The Nazis themselves kept very good records. In addition to the 6 million Jews, there was also gays, jehova witnesses,communionists, trade unionists, gypsies, and lots of other people the Nazis wanted to get rid of.
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Old 01-25-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

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As it’s turned out, now we, Jews, have two public enemies: Iran and Estonia. Both of them try to review total results of WW2.
This should prove intresting...

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Iran openly denies Holocaust, demonstrating its opinion during specially organized conference.

As to Estonia, its leadership has recently adopted the law, which sets the stage for the dismantling of monuments to Soviet fighters against fascism and protecting and restoring graves of fascist occupants in Estonia. It is clear that all this means the full governmental support of nationalist and extremely right movements there.
...and should you really look into the matters you would notice that Estonians want to get rid of Soviet occupation-era statues and truly let people know what Soviets did to the people of Estonia.
Astounding is how you would turn this as a sign of hatred against the Jews.

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It leads to only one thing: resurgence of fascism. And there is no surprise for me, resident of Estonia, that Estonians have already begun to put vexations upon Jews. In contrast to Iranians they show us as if they act on behalf of EU!
But why does EU keep silence in this case?!
Estonians feel poorly towards the Soviet left-overs, the loud pack of communists and mother-Russia lovers of remaining Russian populance in Estonia. Russia tries to pressure Estonia(in case you do not know, border disputes) and use these loud-mouthed Ryssäs as an excuse.

How twisted is your world view, should you consider this as an act of Facism and proofs of rise of Neo-nazies?
For the record, check the number of Nazis in Russia, if you want to know where the true rise is forming.
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Old 01-27-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

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A question about Holocaust numbers (not an anti-semitic post)

I just want a simple answer if i'm wrong or right. Are my calculations correct. If they are, then is this possible ?

"Holocaust" numbers-

2000 days X 24 hours X 60 minutes X 60 seconds

That is 172,800,000 seconds

Divided by 6,000,000

One Jew, identified, detained, "arrested", transported, killed, and body disposed of every

30 seconds

Please check the math-I think it is correct?
You are correct. And there's nothing surprising about those numbers, and they are very possible.
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Old 01-28-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

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As it’s turned out, now we, Jews, have two public enemies: Iran and Estonia. Both of them try to review total results of WW2. Iran openly denies Holocaust, demonstrating its opinion during specially organized conference.
As to Estonia, its leadership has recently adopted the law, which sets the stage for the dismantling of monuments to Soviet fighters against fascism and protecting and restoring graves of fascist occupants in Estonia. It is clear that all this means the full governmental support of nationalist and extremely right movements there.
It leads to only one thing: resurgence of fascism. And there is no surprise for me, resident of Estonia, that Estonians have already begun to put vexations upon Jews. In contrast to Iranians they show us as if they act on behalf of EU!
But why does EU keep silence in this case?!
If you are a resident of Estonia, why do you state that your location is Denmark in the head of your post?

Perhaps most people just do not see things the way you do, they may not consider the new law a consequence of newly risen fascism. I would not, if all I read about was that the law was about dismantling monuments of the communist occupiers.
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Old 01-28-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

I hope this is ok to share,


but I have a page full of information about the Holocaust...

The Official Website of Asher Heimermann
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Old 01-28-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

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I hope this is ok to share,


but I have a page full of information about the Holocaust...

The Official Website of Asher Heimermann
But you should be posting the info, here. not just promoting your website.
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Old 02-01-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

Just a point of order; many historians now think that the number of Jews murdered is closer to 5 million. Doesn't make it any less horrible.

Last edited by ThorHammer; 02-01-2007 at 04:53 AM.
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Old 03-13-2007
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Re: "Holocaust" numbers

From 1922 to 1964 some 1.5 million Jews migrated to Palestine from Europe. This accounts for most of Europe’s Jewish population, which the Jews falsely claim were exterminated by the Germans. Obviously, if Germany had “exterminated” the Jews, then the population of Jews would have been reduced to zero. Somehow, there were millions of Jews still very much alive at the war’s end. (In 1930 the world’s Jewish population was 13 million. By 1950 it had increased to 16 million.) The Jewish population of Germany in 1930 had only been 550,000 and in the period 1932 to 1939 alone, some 214,000 German Jews migrated to Palestine. In Poland, there were only about 200,000 Jews until 1924 when 3.2 million Jews moved in from Russia, increasing the Jewish population of Poland to 3.4 million. By 1930, having organized illegal immigration on a large scale, some 1.8 million Polish Jews entered the United States, leaving about 1.6 million Jews in Poland. By 1964, as stated above, most of these had migrated to Palestine. These would be mostly Ashkenazim Jews. A few thousand more Jews were scattered around other European countries. German Jews, and other Partisans, who remained in Germany and who refused to sign loyalty oaths during time of war, were interned in camps. They were released when the war ended. Thousands of smiling healthy Jews who had comfortably sat out the war in their self-sustaining camps, taking an occasional dip in the Auschwitz swimming pool, returned to their homes. There were, of course, thousands of Jewish Germans who were loyal citizens but mainstream-thinking historians rarely mention any of them.

The myth of the 6 million exterminated Jews was created by simply inflating the population of European Jews to a ridiculously high 10 million figure, and then subtracting from that the actual population of 4 million, who can be accounted for. The Jews then simply say that the Jewish population of Europe was reduced by 6 million Jews. They then add to their bizarre story doctored and blurry photographs, fake photos, photos of war-dead, and claim they are photos of dead Jews. Even more ridiculous is the Jew story that Germans had large numbers of gas chambers and crematoriums all over the country that enabled them to kill millions and millions and gazillions of Jews, as if Germans had nothing better to do with their time during the War when their own country was being incinerated by daily and nightly firebombings.

There never were any gas chambers. The few crematoriums that existed were those that are normally found in funeral homes. After the war, Allied forces were everywhere in Europe, along with news media from all over the world, and the International Red Cross and numerous other relief agencies. Nobody ever saw any gas chambers, crematoriums, or huge piles of dead Jews.
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