Since the Holocaust and the consequent foundation of the state of Israel as initiated and defended by the western powers, serves as the one singular phenomenon to designate and propagate western moral superiority in dealing with their own genocide, I was not surprised to come across another very vital myth celebrated in this cultural hemisphere of double-speak, standards and hypocrisy.

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Ever-Diminishing Official
Numbers Of Auschwitz Dead


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9,000,000

Source: Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown to millions of school students worldwide.

8,000,000

Source: The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945.

7,000,000

Source: Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office.

6,000,000

Source: Cited in the book Auschwitz Doctor by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians.

5,000,000 to 5,500,000

Source: Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss, based on his confession which was written in English, a language he never spoke.

5,000,000

Source: Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000.

4,500,000

Source: In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the aforementioned Höss trial.

4,000,000

Source: Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later on January 26, 1995, The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials. In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz museum officials in 1990 but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery.

3,500,000

Source: Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book, Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber.

3,000,000

Source: Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commander who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below).

2,500,000

Source: Cited by Rudolf Vrba (an author of various fraudulent accounts of events he claims to have witnessed at Auschwitz) when he testified on July 16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS official Adolf Eichmann.

2,000,000

Source: Cited by Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in Harvest of Hate; Georges Wellers, writing in 1973 in The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy; and Lucy Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in The War Against the Jews.

2,000,000 to 4,000,000

Source: Cited by Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, A History of the Holocaust. However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figure to 1,600,000.

1,600,000

Source: This is a 1989 revision by Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in 1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September 22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote "The larger figures have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public yet."

1,500,000

Source: In 1995 this was the number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish President Lech Walesa as determined by those at the Auschwitz museum. This number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time, thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official" figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities).

1,471,595

Source: This is a 1983 figure cited by Georges Wellers who (as noted previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died.

1,433,000

Source: This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000.

1,250,000

Source: In the book, The Destruction of the European Jews, by Raul Hilberg (1985).

1,100,000 to 1,500,000

Source: Sources for this estimate are Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum in their 1984 book, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp. This estimate was later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The upper figure of 1,500,000 is (the new) "official" figure as now inscribed at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp.

1,000,000

Source: Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers. This is interesting since he wrote his book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at Auschwitz.

900,000

Source: Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New York.

800,000 to 900,000

Source: Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his book, The Final Solution.

775,000 to 800,000

Source: Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book, The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery, scaling down his earlier claim of 1,000,000 dead.

630,000 to 710,000

Source: In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000.

135,000 to 140,000

Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained by various interested parties.

The estimate of 135,000 is roughly corroborated by the "Auschwitz death books." The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989.

The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz (each death certificate consists of the deceased person's full name, profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre-Auschwitz residence, parents' names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)).

The Auschwitz death books contain the death certificates of some 69,000 individuals, of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews. You may view various eThe above mentioned, ever declining numbers of alleged dead at Auschwitz, are graphically illustrated by the following pictures of plaques from the camp.




The first is the plaque that was on display at the Auschwitz camp from 1948 until 1989 (note the "4 million" victims).



The second is the plaque currently on display at Auschwitz.

Note the dramatically reduced number of victims, now only 1.5 million.

A casual reduction in the number of deaths by some 2.5 million.

Poland has cut its estimate of the number of people killed by the Nazis in the Auschwitz death camp from 4 million to just over 1 million . . . The new study could rekindle the controversy over the scale of Hitler’s "final solution" . . .
Franciszek Piper, director of the historical committee of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum, states that, according to recent research, at least 1.3 million people were deported to the camp, of whom about 223,000 survived.
The 1.1 million victims included 960,000 Jews, between 70,000 and 75,000 Poles, nearly all of the 23,000 Gypsies sent to the camp and 15,000 Soviet prisoners of war.
Shmuel Krakowsky, head of research at Israel’s Yad Vashem memorial for Jewish victims of the Holocaust, said the new Polish figures were correct: "The 4 million figure was let slip by Capt. Rudolf Hoess, the death camp’s Nazi commander. Some have bought it, but it was exaggerated." . . . [P]laques commemorating the deaths of 4 million victims were removed from the Auschwitz museum earlier this month.
This detail of history was intriguing, since, after all, history books had said for a generation that of the 6 million Jews who died during the Holocaust, 4 million died at Auschwitz alone. Thus, if the new facts were correct, the actual overall number of Jewish Holocaust victims had to be considerably less than the much-talked-about figure of 6 million. Put simply: subtract the former 4 million Jews dead at Auschwitz from the popular 6 million, and that leaves 2 million Jews dead. Simple math—and a controversial conclusion indeed.

Also interesting to read:

Fritjof Meyer and the number of Auschwitz victims: a critical analysis
Journal of Genocide Research, June 2004

Journal Journal of Genocide Research

Journal Journal of Genocide Research

Publisher Routledge, part of the Taylor & Francis Group
ISSN 1462-3528 (Print) 1469-9494 (Online)
Subject Politics and International Relations

Issue Volume 6, Number 2/June 2004

DOI 10.1080/1462352042000225976
Pages 249-266
Online Date Friday, June 18, 2004

The industrial-scale butchery of fellow human beings is a crime so unimaginably horrible that it belittles the numbers.

Reviews of the holocaust are not going to prevent the Grandsons of the Survivors from inflicting their own, albeit slower, genocide upon a different and undeserving nation.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Its been pretty well documented that there were millions - and in any case - as Moon says - the industrial scale butchery makes the numbers pretty irrelevant.

If the numbers were less than those publicly stated it would only be because people were able to escape - NOT because there was any lack of intent to slaughter people on the part of the perpetrators.

You only have to look at the systematic approach to the wholesale slaughter of our fellow human beings undertaken - including slaughter under the guise of 'scientific experiments' to know this.

And quite frankly MyLai - do we really need to talk numbers? Does it matter to you whether there was 50, 150, 300 or 1000 killed at My Lai?

Would it be any less horrific if some of those people had escaped?

My reading of Bernhardt's account says no.

I couldn`t agree with you more. The numbers are totally irrelevant. But with what I am having a problem is, the claim of historical singularity proclaimed by the West and Israel. The success of Israel in monopolizing the phenomenon of genocide. The abuse of this genocide to again abuse and mass murder another people, namely the Palestinians.

Most of the people, when confronted with the term genocide symphatize with Israel.

I say, there were and are genocides in this world of a greater magnitude!

It is just a question of the right lobby and the potential of political instrumentalization. If you don´t have them, you are not elligible.

The people in Screbrenica who died in a genocide performed by christian Serbs were not as good enough as the Jews, because the UN prohibits them to claim reparation payments.

The Chechenians, murdered by christian Russians, are not even topicized. They`ll never make it into the Olymp of Genocide.

Therefore, I find it very important, to communicate findings as these to, on the one side wake up people, so they won`t become victims of an ongoing historical brainwash, and on the other side inhibit the powers that are to continue whirling the genocide hammer right and left.

Maybe we had less than 1 million Jews dying in the Holocaust. But who knows how many Kazakhs were killed in the thirties by Stalin. 3 million ? 4 million ? 5 million ?

We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
— Ariel Sharon
Israeli Prime Minister,
Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001

When we do it, it is fighting for freedom, when they do it, it`s genocide!

poster, i have news for you. there were death books at auschwitz. for interned prisoners. auschwitz was a three camp system. a factory, a death factory, and a prison camp. the millions who were gassed were not interned or recorded at auschwitz. their numbers were known in berlin. there were hundreds of ways to die at auschwitz, and some of the numbers you cited do not represent someone's total estimate. just the estimate of thos gassed, or those worked to death, or those who died of disease.

revisionists who you cited love to take a buna (a rubbert factory at auschwitz) death toll and somehow hope people will believe it represents birkenau (the death factory that could not feasibly record its victims). this is why the holocaust must be tought about. IN DETAIL

And its possible to conclude that a million jews were gassed simply at auschwitz, one of four death camps, and that zionists have committed crimes to! you don't have to attack the holocaust.

naturally, the red cross was not at birkenau.

its interesting. The first time I ever heard the term 'genocide' used in the popular media was in relation to Cambodia. I don't use it in relation to Jews - although I agree that the holocaust was a genocide - of groups other than Jews as well. I certainly see Israel to have policies that bear a strong resemblance to those of Nazi Germany in its early stages ... but also similar to any number of historical occupations/domination by one group over another.

When you use terms such as 'the west' and 'most people' you should be a little more cautious. There certainly seems to be a rise in support for Israel in recent years in some quarters, but here (and I think in most of Europe) people don't necessarily dismiss the plight of the Palestinians - in fact, srael's actions in recent times are contributing to a increase in anti Israeli sentiment - and a recognition that Israel can't rely on the holocaust to justify its actions.


sigh. you and I are on the same page My Lai. It often brings me almost to the point of despair that human beings are still tribal cro magnons in their mindset about victims. There are those 'like us', and there are those 'not like us' whose trials and tribulations are not regarded as important. Being 'not like us' can be based on racial, ethnic, religious, political, class or any other difference you care to name. For the most part they are people with less 'dollar votes' than we have - so their demise doesn't count for much in the 'real' world we live in. In some instances the price they pay can be justified byt he fact they are 'not like us' - (eg the attitudes of some Americans to Palestinians, Iraqis and Afghanis).


hmmm. well - I think its more important to separate the holocaust and the actions of Israel as two separate issues.

If you deny/minimise the holocaust, you leave yourself open to charges of anti semitism. If you separate the two out, acknowledge the holocaust, but don't allow this to be used as an excuse to justify perpetrating injustices against another people, you are on firmer ground.

I doubt that there were less than 1 million Jews. I doubt we will ever know the numbers of any of these mass genocides. But each one is as important as the other.

What is special to the west about the Holocaust is that it was people like US - people who were supposedly civilised and cultured and educated - who allowed themselves to become so mired in hatred that they could do what they did, and even use their 'science' to inflict the horror.

THAT is the lesson, to the west, of the holocaust - and it should teach us that before we go pointing our fingers at the barbarity of others, we should remember that our own barbarity can erupt just as easily as that of others.