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Re: Native American genocide?
Ah well ... I just noticed Glenn got banned ...
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Re: Native American genocide?
Well I haven't read every post on this thread so someone may have already brought this up. The supposed "Smallpox Blankets scheme was debunked years ago. The only supposed evidence was a few letters between a couple of British officers discussing whether they should try to spread smallpox to the Indians using blankets and no evidence that this was ever put into effect.
A diary entry, truncated and taken out of context, is often used to try to support the claim. In an incident where Mandan Indians died after an ill advised attempt to inoculate them against smallpox it was sepsis caused by poor preservation of the serum which lead to the deaths. Ward Churchill , the noted fraud and plagiarist, tried to stir up these old genocide claims a few years back, his works didn't hold up to scrutiny. Such obscure historical references such as "the goods of the guineamen" were taken to mean infected blankets and such. The goods of the Guineamen turned out to be african slaves sold to the Indians, some of these slaves were apparently carriers of small pox. Some "Genocidal" actions were taken by individuals at various times, but whites against indians and Indians against whites. My own ancestors were targeted for extermination by Dragging canoe and his renegade Cherokee who wished to kill off all the white settlers who'd bought land from their chiefs. Luckily the Cherokee Nation stood by their word and helped wipe out Dragging Canoe's band. There was never an official government policy to wipe out the Indians, if there had been there wouldn't be any Indians. Even the Spanish were known to have punished a Military Governor when he nearly wiped out a tribe which had massacred peaceful Indians because they had cooperated with the Spanish. His troops BTW were Indians, who'd only done to the renegade Indians what those Indians had done to them and their families. During the time of the Conquistadors the vast majority of atrocities committed against the Indians were committed by the Indian Allies of the Spanish. They were bent on vengence for wrongs done to them in the recent past. The First Indian reservation in the US was built as a place of refuge to protect the surviving members of the Pequoit tribe from the Naragansett, whom they had butchered at will for decades before being defeated by a combined force of White Militia and Naragansett braves. |
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The Amherst letter has been used to support the proposition of germ warfare or genocide against native populations. Amherst may have discussed it in correspondence with Bouquet, but there is no evidence that Colonel Bouquet carried it out. As he mentioned in his reply, Bouquet was afraid of what it would do to his own men and with good reason. 1763 was twenty-three years before Jenner’s work on vaccination, and one hundred years before Pasteur advanced his germ theory. The only thing known about smallpox in 1763 was…age, color of skin, social status meant nothing to the smallpox virus...an infected person died or, if lucky enough to survive, was often disfigured for life. No matter how bad Amherst may have wanted to be rid of the Indians, it seems doubtful that Bouquet would unleash a disease on his soldiers that had already killed millions of his own countrymen. There is no evidence that Col. Bouquet took any action on Amherst's letter, but while Fort Pitt was under Indian siege, Captain Ecuyer wrote to Bouquet... "Out of our regard for them (two Indian chiefs) we gave them two blankets and a handkerchief out of the smallpox hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect (William Trent)." The incident with Captain Ecuyer occurred during the Pontiac Rebellion. There is also evidence that Ecuyer tried to control the spread of smallpox, at least from his own men. In a letter to Bouquet, Captain Ecuyer writes that Fort Pitt is in good state of defense against all attempts from Savages, who are daily firing upon the Fort; unluckily the Small Pox has broken out in the garrison, for which he has built an Hospital under the Draw Bridge to prevent the Spreading of that distemper (Peter d'Errico, nativeweb.org). In 1763, Fort Pitt was under siege by Indian forces under the command of Chief Pontiac (Pontiac Rebellion by Tebbel). With smallpox in the garrison at Fort Pitt and Indians attacking the fort, two blankets would have had little to do with the spread of smallpox among the Indians. A by far greater source for spreading the smallpox virus would have been infected blood from mutilated soldier and settler bodies, scalps, clothing, and in some cases cannibalism, which occurred during the Pontiac Rebellion. Every warrior that returned from Fort Pitt to Indian villages up and down the East coast with smallpox infected war trophies carried the smallpox virus with them. Contaminated warriors spreading the smallpox virus is never mentioned by proponents of Indian Genocide; it does not fit their biased agenda. Smallpox Native American Plains Indian Genocide Pictures
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The real genocide of WWII was the deaths of 50 million White gentiles. And the only victors are the jews. A simple glimpse at the present world demographics prove it, since White gentiles are now less than 8 percent of the world's population, and dropping rapidly in accordance with the world jewish agenda. See The Official Website of Representative David Duke, PhD for details, confirmations, and proofs. Also White Civil Rights. Or phone me, Glenn Miller, at 417-463-7703. Sieg Heil !!! |
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Well, if you're a Nazi, you can hardly bemoan the deaths of a few millions "Untermensch" Slavs, now, can you? |
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The gift of Blankets and Handkerchiefs from the stored items in the infirmary was to seal their bargin, Turtle's Heart was a friend of the Whites and had offered to speak up for them in counsel. To deliberately infect one of their only friends would have been ridiculous. The South Eastern Indians were noted for personal cleanliness, to offer one a soiled blanket or handkerchief would have been a deadly insult. Blankets and other items in the infirmary would have been washed and possibly new un used items. Its possible infection was spread by these items but highly unlikely and a reading of the complete diary entry gives no indication that this was the plan. Its fairly easy to cherry pick a few words from a paragraph and make it appear to read as something which was not there. BTW Its possible Trent was one of my Ancestors. Our family tree mentions the service of a William Trent in the Revolutionary war and his receiving a pension for that service. That William Trent married an Indian woman after his wife died. PS Quote:
It was Alexander Trent that married the Cherokee maiden, not his Brother William. Quote:
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