if anybody established israel, it was israel.

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you, europeans are responisible for being abusive and racist and colonialist for centuries.. and in your wake you have left alot of sore feelings against the western world.. of which america is apart of... america is the desendents of europeans who had brought over european beliefs of superiority and racism.. when americans slaughtered the indians.. it started as we were europeans.. slavery was brought to america by europeans.. so racism is a wholey european thing.. when we stop being racist we become americans.. because america is a country of many races and ethnicitys..

europeans try to imitate us by pretending to be 'multicultural' by encouraging as many foriegners into thier countries as possible.. they think they can be like us.. but they cant.. which is why you have a huge rise in extremly polarised racist groups.. including rise in neo nazi and communist parties.. of which some of your belief system seems to stem from...

your hate and racism.. butchering of entire peoples has created long standing problems in the world.. you riots and brutal treatment of the jews has created zionism.. your partioning of the land and encouragment to jews to go to israel..

what have you done for the world recently?
honestly...

and now you see this mess you created and place the blame on america.. its rather sad.. you have done nothing for palestine... and only encourage violent racism coming from the muslim world with your misplaced sympathies after you screwed up the planet..


thanks.

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Metalted - basically you are right. Europe (especially Britain, France, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Germany, etc) created colonialism, fascism, communism, etc.

The crime of establishing Israel was only partly an European idea - USA made it and maintains it. Of course Hitler's fascism was one of the reasons to do that. This crime was however the last major colonial crime where the Europeans contributed.

After killing the red indians, the Americans have alone developed its racism, slavery, militarism and recently the "global fascism" (PNAC by the Hawks). Whereas Europe has started to cover the damages which colonialism did by assisting now the countries by means of broad collaboration and development aid.

We are not proud of our history but we are proud of our direction today... opposite to the situation in USA. Most recognized political analysts say that USA is now quickly collapsing towards fascism and anarchy. The rest of the world will tremedously suffer from this tragedy.

You forgot starting both World Wars, resulting in the deaths of more people than any other group of countries in the world.

Matt

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Matt - Europeans are effective, but we have killed only few million soldiers plus some civilians in our wars. USA has killed after 1940 more than 50 million people most of which are civilians. And the killing is on the way all the time... We understood to stop long time ago (the Brittons of course continue as being US monkeys).

Analyst, you are utterly full of shit if you are claiming the US has, in 200 years, come close to killing 1/10th as many people as "enlightened" Europe has.

Your "50 million" list - which didn't even add up to 50 million (you were 40% off) - included European atrocities like the Congo.

Please, come off your Eurojingoist nonsense. You're just making yourself look like a fool.

Matt

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Mainly because before, Europe was the center of the world: economicaly, culturaly, military and on R&D and so on

So powerful countries with different interests, different cultures leads to wars of course and stupidity to such as fascism, nationalism, etc...

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So?

You forgot to mention the 2000 thousands years before too with hundreds of wars...

That is why, we have seconds thoughts about going to war these days...

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LMAO It is estimated that fifty million people died in the european theatre in world war two alone! only a mere 1/25 of that can be attributed to american military. Lets see, take that, plus i think the twenty million of world war one, the countless millions of natives slaughtered by the spanish and the english, however many who died during napoleon's wars, plus the centuries of conflict between britain and france, colonial wars in Africa, opium wars in china, and i am just scratching the surface!
nice try though.

and, btw, Europeans only stopped colonizing and imperializing the world when they were forced to stop by failing economies, colonial rebellions, and the cold war superpowers. lol, it wasnt really a consientious choice!

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"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

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yall have second thoughts about going to war becuase nobody lets you! haha. that and your welfare states and mediocre economies dont allow much for military spending. keep those 1,000 man response teams going, however, the world would crumble without them. somebody has to take care of peacekeeping when america is rearranging other countries!

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"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

"Oh, All of them!"

Here is the recent US murder toll - mostly civilian people:

Germany (1945): 200K
Japan (1945): 900K
China (1945-60): 200K
Greece (1947-49): 100K
Korea (1951-53): 2M
Guatemala (1954-2002): 300K
Vietnam (1960-75): 2M
Laos (1965-73): 500K - 1M
Cambodia (1969-75): 1M - 3M
Indonesia (1965): 500K
Colombia (1966-2002): 500K
Oman (1970): 10K
Bangladesh (1971): 2M
Uganda (1971-1979): 200K
Chile (1973-1990): 20K
East Timor (1975): 200K
Angola (1975-2002): 1.5M
Argentina (1976-1979): 30K
Afghanistan (1978-2002): 1M
El Salvador (1980-95): 100K
Nicaragua (1980-90): 100K
Mozambique (1981-1988): 1M
Turkey (1984-2002): 50K
Rwanda (1990-1996): 1M
Iraq (1991-2002): 1M
Somalia (1991-1994): 300K
Yugoslavia (1991-2002): 300K
Liberia (1992-2002): 150K
Burundi (1993-1999): 200K
Sudan (1998): 100K
Congo (1998-2002): 3M
Ethiopia/Somalia - ongoing
Afghanistan (2002-) 0.5 M
Iraq (2003-) 0.7 M

This is only a fraction of the truth - the military dictators put to power by USA have killed as much.

i bet you could not tell a narrative on how we were involved in half of them. and how those people were killed by our hands. take china. how did we install chinese dictator..

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You do know this is a fuktard response, right? You're just hoping someone will buy it.

Europe is for appeasement, pure and simple. They assume, which is a mistake, that US/UK/Canada will pick up the slack. 2 of those 3 are unable. US is now following, so they will not. US may or may not be able to muster something down the road, if necessary for it's own survival, but it will be too little, too late.

you do know that if anyone buys your statistics here it would be because they are incredible stupid and gullible.. and fortuanatly very few will buy into your shit. analyst

i can tell you are completely in your own world, actually pretty much everyone can..
you are not a liberal who cares about suffering of people your a violent jew hating racist
who wants to see the overthrow of america.. you are the equal of a facist who wants
all muslims exterminated. throw out your fuckin propaganda and get into the real world.

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are you serious or are you just trying to be obtuse?

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"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

"Oh, All of them!"