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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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First word I've heard of this. I've seen lots of documentary 'proof' of it including Hitler's birth documents and those of his ancestors. I've got at least a half-dozen history texts on my bookshelf that give information on that issue. Hitler's maternal grandmother was jewish. No doubt about it in my mind.

Personally, I don't think it makes any difference at all. But it is likely to annoy the poster of the OP.
Hitler's maternal grandmother, Johanna Pölzl (born Hiedler), was not jewish.

The question of Hitler's jewish ancestry was raised after the war by Hans Frank, German lawyer and member of the Nazi party. He claimed that Alois Hitler's (Adolf's father) biological father was Leopold Frankenberger, whom he also claimed was jewish. Alois' mother Maria Schicklgruber, according to Hans Frank, worked for Frankenberger in Graz for a time and became pregnant by him. Professor Sir Ian Kershaw disproved this theory by pointing out three points. First, all Jews had been expelled from Graz in the 15th century, and had only been allowed to return in the 1860s. Alois was born in 1837. Secondly, the is no documented evidence that Maria ever lived in Graz. Finally, there is no documented evidence of a Jew by the name of Frankenberger in Europe during the 19th century.

Alios Hitler's father was either one of two brothers; Johann Georg Hiedler (who eventually became his legal father and who many historians believe was he real father) or Johann Nepomuk Hiedler.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

A video from a non-kosher perspective? A little fascist humor, I suppose? Very amusing indeed.

What is this pile of rancid junk doing in the history section?

Where is the forum garbage can? I vote we pick up this lunatic tribute to Adolph and send it hurtling into the depths of junk threads.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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I'm not "back" - sorry. I am not generally posting due to a protest against the site management.


First word I've heard of this. I've seen lots of documentary 'proof' of it including Hitler's birth documents and those of his ancestors. I've got at least a half-dozen history texts on my bookshelf that give information on that issue. Hitler's maternal grandmother was jewish. No doubt about it in my mind.

Personally, I don't think it makes any difference at all. But it is likely to annoy the poster of the OP.
No, not annoyed at all. You've haven't yet proven that you've got the ESP necessary to prove who slept with who centures go.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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A video from a non-kosher perspective? A little fascist humor, I suppose? Very amusing indeed.

What is this pile of rancid junk doing in the history section?

Where is the forum garbage can? I vote we pick up this lunatic tribute to Adolph and send it hurtling into the depths of junk threads.
Not a fanatic about the 1st amendment are ya ??
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

Gee guys, wasn't anybody favorably impressed at least a wee bit by this :


Germany, 1933-45 - no drugs, no pornography, no dark minorities, no race-mixing, no abortions except to save mother's life, almost no crime, the highest literacy rate in the world, no traitors in government, no anti-white hate propaganda in their media, no violent minority gangs, no mafia, no freemasonry, almost no prostitution even, AND most importantly of all, NO JEWS IN POWER.

A nation of healthy, happy, prosperous, strong and united white people, led by patriotic white people, for the betterment of the whole nation.
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Not a fanatic about the 1st amendment are ya ??
You're fuckin' delusional if you believe that your first amendment rights extend to this forum...
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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Are we talking Crimes and Mercies or Other Loses?



A valid point. Most people here wouldn't even know where places like Schlesien, Sudetenland, Ostpuressen, etc.... even were. Still, when dealing with historical subjects, it is always a good practice to be as specific as possible.



'Begged' isn't the word I would use. 'Demanded' (some of his demands were very reasonable, IMO), even 'bullied', would be a more apt word.



To avoid the risk of getting into an even larger debate about what triggered WW1 and WW2 (they have both been discussed at length elsewhere), I'll let this slide.



I misread what you originally posted. I thought you were trying to claim that all German women (in the entire Reich) were raped. My mistake.
The book was definitely "Crimes and Mercies" ThorHammer. But you aren't the only one who's questioned my posting of that figure of 13.7 million. I've got the book around here somewhere, and will look it up when time permits. I don't think we can prove the point either way on the net. I'm certain I did read that figure in the book. But I understand that it's hard to believe.

German women and girls were raped all over Germany by the various Allies, though mostly by jew-led USSR troops, who in fact, were ordered by their commanders to "take their women as your booty and break their wills", as a result of an official military order by a high ranking jewish officer (forgot his name - Urlicstein? Something like that)

The American and British troops didn't have to rape as profusely, since the German women were starving and willing to sell their bodies for a can of C-rations and other foods, in order to feed their children and themselves to stay alive. Why rape when millions of women and girls are starving, thus voluntary victims ?

The Americans and British deliberately prevented sufficient food supplies from reaching the German population, and for long after the war ended.

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You're fuckin' delusional if you believe that your first amendment rights extend to this forum...
But I didn't say that. You did. You really oughta stop putting words into other people's mouths, and start trying to live up to the low debating standards you've set for yourself.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

Just goes to show you at what extent delusion/brainwashing can overtake the human mind.
For anyone to think that murdering an entire race of people is "ideal" has to be completely overtaken by years of rhetorical bombardment.

It is clear the OP is completely beyond clear thought on this subject.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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Gee guys, wasn't anybody favorably impressed at least a wee bit by this :


Germany, 1933-45 - no drugs, no pornography, no dark minorities, no race-mixing, no abortions except to save mother's life, almost no crime, the highest literacy rate in the world, no traitors in government, no anti-white hate propaganda in their media, no violent minority gangs, no mafia, no freemasonry, almost no prostitution even, AND most importantly of all, NO JEWS IN POWER.

A nation of healthy, happy, prosperous, strong and united white people, led by patriotic white people, for the betterment of the whole nation.
To live under a dictatorship. Sounds wonderful. I wonder how well this site would do under that regime.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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Just out of curiosity, what do you do with that whole "war" thing that was going on? I mean, your happy, healthy, government was invading other nations. For example, I'm curious if you blames "the Jews" for Germany's invasion of Poland or claim that it was all made in the history books or if you just support Nazis invading other nations.

(btw, are "the Jews" a specific club of individuals that only accepts Jewish members or is every individual of Jewish heritage in the world somehow secretly in contact with every other for the purposes of plotting?)

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Also, what are the advantages of "no dark minorities" and "no race-mixing"? I have friends you would probably classify as "dark minorities"; I'd prefer to keep them. And I know some very happily married inter-racial couples. I really don't see the up-side to a state that dictates to me which people I can hang out with or who I can "mix" with. That just sounds oppressive.
Well, your unhealthy Jewish Occupation Government has invaded a few freakin DOZEN nations, or haven't you noticed ?? (Iraq - Afghanistan - hint hint). The JOG has troops in 120 nations as you speak.

After Germany lost WWI, thousands of square miles of land were taken away from the Germans by the victors, and given to Poland and other countries as punishment. On 30 Sept 1939, Hitler used his military option after trying unsuccessfully to have it returned diplomatically. What would you have done, just let them keep it ??

History books are always written by the victors ONLY !! You really oughta be a wee bit skeptical, therefore.

As for the advantages of "no dark minorities" and "no race-mixing) well one advantage would be the survival of your species (assuming you're a white person). Race mixing means race destruction. And if you'll take a little time to digest that, I'm confident you'll reach the same conclusion, unless you know how to mix a jackass with a thoroughbred and come out with a fast race horse.

Yaw'll go right ahead and continue wallowing with Watusis and Eskimos. Nothing I can do about it. . . . yet.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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History books are always written by the victors ONLY !! You really oughta be a wee bit skeptical, therefore....
The Germans and Japanese haven't written any history books?
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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Yaw'll go right ahead and continue wallowing with Watusis and Eskimos. Nothing I can do about it. . . . yet.
"yet"? Sounds ominous.
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To live under a dictatorship. Sounds wonderful. I wonder how well this site would do under that regime.
You're the one who said Hitler killed millions of his own people. Now once again, present credible evidence or else racant that absurdity. Then I'll entertain what every else you have to say.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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You're the one who said Hitler killed millions of his own people. Now once again, present credible evidence or else racant that absurdity. Then I'll entertain what every else you have to say.
The first thing that pops into my mind is the night of the long knives in which he had SA members taken out and killed. This is typical of what he also did with political rivals and anybody that didn't fall in line. Not to mention all the German Jews and people of other minorities or sexual persuasions. They where Germans you know.
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