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The Germans and Japanese haven't written any history books?
yeah, that was pretty ignorant on his part. There have been plenty of titles written by Germans, both vets and non-vets.
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He might have a point. Diversity is way overrated.

(/Irony.)
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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As for the advantages of "no dark minorities" and "no race-mixing) well one advantage would be the survival of your species (assuming you're a white person).
Hey Darwin, the species is Homo Sapiens, and the dark folks to which you refer are part of it. You, I'm not so sure about. Based on the content of your posts, I get the feeling that your ancestors may have jumped off the evolutionary train a bit early.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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The first thing that pops into my mind is the night of the long knives in which he had SA members taken out and killed. This is typical of what he also did with political rivals and anybody that didn't fall in line. Not to mention all the German Jews and people of other minorities or sexual persuasions. They where Germans you know.
200-300 German traitors were killed during the so-called Night of the Long Knives, partofme. While more than 10 million White Slavic people were killed by the jew-led USSR, even BEFORE Hitler was elected to power.

Don't you find it outrageous that you and the whole world have heard about the Night of the Long Knives that only killed a few hundred, but not one person in a thousand even recognizes the word "Dresden" or what took place there in Febuary 1945, after the German people had already been beaten to their knees ??

Hitler was faced with 2 million militant communists and other traitors in Germany, a country smaller than Texas, which was surrounded at the time on all sides by sworn enemy countries, and he had to take strong measures to establish order by ordering the "night of the long knives", that killed a mere 200-300 traitors.

Heil Hitler !!! I wish to hell we had one.
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200-300 German traitors were killed during the so-called Night of the Long Knives, partofme. While more than 10 million White Slavic people were killed by the jew-led USSR, even BEFORE Hitler was elected to power.

Don't you find it outrageous that you and the whole world have heard about the Night of the Long Knives that only killed a few hundred, but not one person in a thousand even recognizes the word "Dresden" or what took place there in Febuary 1945, after the German people had already been beaten to their knees ??

Hitler was faced with 2 million militant communists and other traitors in Germany, a country smaller than Texas, which was surrounded at the time on all sides by sworn enemy countries, and he had to take strong measures to establish order by ordering the "night of the long knives", that killed a mere 200-300 traitors.

Heil Hitler !!! I wish to hell we had one.
What you call traitor sounds much like what I call somebody exercising free expression. I do in fact realize such atrocities also happened against the Germans. I do not deny that. The whole war was one big atrocity. Too bad a Nazi Germany had to aggressively invade other nations and start it. But having to worry about being killed because of my political convictions doesn't sound like a pleasant life to say the least.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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Just goes to show you at what extent delusion/brainwashing can overtake the human mind.
For anyone to think that murdering an entire race of people is "ideal" has to be completely overtaken by years of rhetorical bombardment.

It is clear the OP is completely beyond clear thought on this subject.
In other words...
Who murdered "an entire race of people" ?? And who but the jewsmedia is capable of significant "years of rhetorical bombardment" ??
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Who murdered "an entire race of people" ?? And who but the jewsmedia is capable of significant "years of rhetorical bombardment" ??
Your right he should have said attempted to murder an entire race of people. Hitler failed at that as he failed to take over the world and failed at life by killing himself rather than facing the final consequences of his actions.
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What you call traitor sounds much like what I call somebody exercising free expression. I do in fact realize such atrocities also happened against the Germans. I do not deny that. The whole war was one big atrocity. Too bad a Nazi Germany had to aggressively invade other nations and start it. But having to worry about being killed because of my political convictions doesn't sound like a pleasant life to say the least.
You'd have to had lived in Europe in the 20s and 30s in order to make a moral judgment now about the actions chosen by Hitler to restore order and prosperity among the German people, and to rebuild Germany's military to make it capable of defending the German nation and people.

Contemporary soccermom and girl-man morality pumped into their heads by Oprah and Martin Looter Koon, wasn't condusive to survival back then.

And don't get me started on the evils of "aggressively invading other countries", unless you want to discuss your own country's transgressions in that department under it's present war criminal regime.
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You'd have to had lived in Europe in the 20s and 30s in order to make a moral judgment now about the actions chosen by Hitler to restore order and prosperity among the German people, and to rebuild Germany's military to make it capable of defending the German nation and people.

Contemporary soccermom and girl-man morality pumped into their heads by Oprah and Martin Looter Koon, wasn't condusive to survival back then.

And don't get me started on the evils of "aggressively invading other countries", unless you want to discuss your own country's transgressions in that department under it's present war criminal regime.

Murder wasn't considered prosperity in Europe at that time as far as I know.

I'm no defender about our countries current foreign policies so you do not to get to use that one against me and unlike Nazi Germany I get to express my opinion about that without living in fear.
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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The question of Hitler's jewish ancestry was raised after the war by Hans Frank, German lawyer and member of the Nazi party. He claimed that Alois Hitler's (Adolf's father) biological father was Leopold Frankenberger, whom he also claimed was jewish. Alois' mother Maria Schicklgruber, according to Hans Frank, worked for Frankenberger in Graz for a time and became pregnant by him. Professor Sir Ian Kershaw disproved this theory by pointing out three points. First, all Jews had been expelled from Graz in the 15th century, and had only been allowed to return in the 1860s. Alois was born in 1837. Secondly, the is no documented evidence that Maria ever lived in Graz. Finally, there is no documented evidence of a Jew by the name of Frankenberger in Europe during the 19th century.
This is just a wiki quote that has no citations or sources. Anyone could have written that:
Leopold Frankenberger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apparently Kershaw didn't look very hard.
I found a 19th century European Frankenberger in under three minutes, with documentary proof:
FRANKENBERGER - Footnote Search
Of course, it doesn't say whether he's Jewish but how could one know either way ?
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Re: Adolph Hitler From A Non-Jewish Perspective (Video)

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Your right he should have said attempted to murder an entire race of people. Hitler failed at that as he failed to take over the world and failed at life by killing himself rather than facing the final consequences of his actions.
Thanks for correcting his error. However, Hitler did not attempt to murder any race of people. There's been no proof or even solid, credibly evidence he ordered the so-called "holocaust" either.

How the hell can any sane, thinking person believe the "holocaust" charges against the German people, when it's a criminal offense for any German to even question the holocaust, much less to deny it ??

How'd you like to stand trial for mass murder, and not be able to deny the charges or even question your accusers ?? And then after your conviction, find out the whole world believes you are guilty ??

However, if you're opened minded and the kind of man who'd like to hear the side of the German defendants, I recommend The Zundelsite - Dedicated to Ernst Zundel - Prisoner of Conscience
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Thanks for correcting his error. However, Hitler did not attempt to murder any race of people. There's been no proof or even solid, credibly evidence he ordered the so-called "holocaust" either.

How the hell can any sane, thinking person believe the "holocaust" charges against the German people, when it's a criminal offense for any German to even question the holocaust, much less to deny it ??

How'd you like to stand trial for mass murder, and not be able to deny the charges or even question your accusers ?? And then after your conviction, find out the whole world believes you are guilty ??

However, if you're opened minded and the kind of man who'd like to hear the side of the German defendants, I recommend The Zundelsite - Dedicated to Ernst Zundel - Prisoner of Conscience
I am not in favor of holocaust denial laws so that isn't an issue with you. However I am wondering how the hell all those survivors all came up with those stories and the bodies and death camps before the allies rescued them. That was some pretty craft stuff. I bet they all got that skinny because of eating disorders.
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Thanks for correcting his error. However, Hitler did not attempt to murder any race of people. There's been no proof or even solid, credibly evidence he ordered the so-called "holocaust" either.
So who did order the so-called holocaust? Or did all those people march to the the concentration camps on their own?
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Contemporary soccermom and girl-man morality pumped into their heads by Oprah and Martin Looter Koon, wasn't condusive to survival back then.
No 'clever' spin on Oprah's name? I would think any man that can come up with the ingenius "Martin Looter Koon" could think of a similarly dazzling twist for Oprah. You disappoint me Glenn.
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This is just a wiki quote that has no citations or sources. Anyone could have written that:
Leopold Frankenberger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your point? I was basing what I wrote off texts that I had read. Still, it is scary that what I wrote is so similar to that wiki quote.

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Apparently Kershaw didn't look very hard.
I found a 19th century European Frankenberger in under three minutes, with documentary proof:
FRANKENBERGER - Footnote Search
Of course, it doesn't say whether he's Jewish but how could one know either way ?
Kershaw wasn't claiming there were no Frankenberger's living in Europe. He was claiming, however, that there were no Jewish Frankenbergers.
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