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In this case, it amounts to denial. Denial of things they'd like to pretend didn't happen. But my point is that there is little percentage in arguing with somone who won't even meet the terms of debate.
Well, in the case of this thread, it does not appear to be a case of denial:

PART III - The numbers of "Holocaust" victims are irresponsibly exaggerated.
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Well, in the case of this thread, it does not appear to be a case of denial:

PART III - The numbers of "Holocaust" victims are irresponsibly exaggerated.
I rather think it does; denial of a large number of murders.
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I rather think it does; denial of a large number of murders.
Haha! Are you kidding? So I guess creationists' only beef with evolution is that perhaps it took one or two years less for a certain stage of evolution to occur than the evolutionists say it did, right?
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Re: Holocaust Myth 101

Jewish population of Germany was only 550,000. Check any encyclopedia.
Most of them left.

In Poland, a couple of million. Russia invaded Poland 3 days after Germany. Most Polish Jews were in east Poland under the Russians.

Only about 70,000 Jews were interned in camps because they would not sign loyalty oaths to Germany during time of war. No big deal.

After the war, allied forces were all over Germany, including Ike, the media and the international Red Cross. Nobody saw any gas chambers all over the place. Nobody saw piles of dead Jews all over the place. Nobody.

So-called holocaust eye-witnesses are just more Jews saying the same thing. And they could only "witness" what was immediately in front of them, not the whole "holocaust".

The world's Jewish population in 1930 was 13 million. In 1950, it was 16 million. That's an increase, not a decrease.

No holocaust, anywhere, anytime.
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Jewish population of Germany was only 550,000. Check any encyclopedia.
Most of them left.

In Poland, a couple of million. Russia invaded Poland 3 days after Germany. Most Polish Jews were in east Poland under the Russians.

Only about 70,000 Jews were interned in camps because they would not sign loyalty oaths to Germany during time of war. No big deal.

After the war, allied forces were all over Germany, including Ike, the media and the international Red Cross. Nobody saw any gas chambers all over the place. Nobody saw piles of dead Jews all over the place. Nobody.

So-called holocaust eye-witnesses are just more Jews saying the same thing. And they could only "witness" what was immediately in front of them, not the whole "holocaust".

The world's Jewish population in 1930 was 13 million. In 1950, it was 16 million. That's an increase, not a decrease.

No holocaust, anywhere, anytime.
How about a source for your numbers?
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Relocated to appropriate section.
This isn't the 'Just For Fun forum, it's the History forum, in case you didn't notice. It's still not in the appropriate section ....
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Jewish population of Germany was only 550,000. Check any encyclopedia.
Most of them left.

In Poland, a couple of million. Russia invaded Poland 3 days after Germany. Most Polish Jews were in east Poland under the Russians.

Only about 70,000 Jews were interned in camps because they would not sign loyalty oaths to Germany during time of war. No big deal.

After the war, allied forces were all over Germany, including Ike, the media and the international Red Cross. Nobody saw any gas chambers all over the place. Nobody saw piles of dead Jews all over the place. Nobody.

So-called holocaust eye-witnesses are just more Jews saying the same thing. And they could only "witness" what was immediately in front of them, not the whole "holocaust".

The world's Jewish population in 1930 was 13 million. In 1950, it was 16 million. That's an increase, not a decrease.

No holocaust, anywhere, anytime.
Uh huh. And the photographs of piles of bodies are all faked.
Sound enough like denial for you, Slon?
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Haha! Are you kidding? So I guess creationists' only beef with evolution is that perhaps it took one or two years less for a certain stage of evolution to occur than the evolutionists say it did, right?
The point was not that there is a perfect point for point match between creationist argument and holocauset denial, or 'revisionist' argunment. It was that engaging them is equally unfruitful.
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Uh huh. And the photographs of piles of bodies are all faked.
Sound enough like denial for you, Slon?
That was posted AFTER you said there was denial in this thread.
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The point was not that there is a perfect point for point match between creationist argument and holocauset denial, or 'revisionist' argunment. It was that engaging them is equally unfruitful.
If that's the case, what are you doing in this thread? Letting us know how much you don't care about it?
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Uh huh. And the photographs of piles of bodies are all faked.
Sound enough like denial for you, Slon?
Yes. Lots and lots of fake photos. Blurry photos. Splice marks, conflicting shawdow lines, fake photos. Fake.
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Re: Holocaust Myth 101

Somewhere in my office I have a videotape from a TV program I recorded about 20 years ago. It showed actual footage of these camps, along with the piles of bodies and such. It also had, if memory serves, testimonial from a few of the US soldiers who were in there when the footage was shot.
It was a pretty sickening video, is all I can say.

I'm almost inclined to look for it and try to post a link if such a source still exists. But I probably won't bother because I have a sneaking suspicion it will be dismissed out of hand no matter where it came from.
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Yes. Lots and lots of fake photos. Blurry photos. Splice marks, conflicting shawdow lines, fake photos. Fake.
How about posting some examples of these alleged fakes and also, how about some sources to back up your claim re the size of the Jewish population in 1930 and 1950?
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Somewhere in my office I have a videotape from a TV program I recorded about 20 years ago. It showed actual footage of these camps, along with the piles of bodies and such. It also had, if memory serves, testimonial from a few of the US soldiers who were in there when the footage was shot.
It was a pretty sickening video, is all I can say.

I'm almost inclined to look for it and try to post a link if such a source still exists. But I probably won't bother because I have a sneaking suspicion it will be dismissed out of hand no matter where it came from.
My grandfather was a field medic in WWII. He was seperated from his platoon, captured by the German army and spent three days in a concentration camp before it was liberated. He never talked about it, but he kept journals that my grandmother transcribed after he died. He wasn't in the buisness of making stuff up.
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I'm almost inclined to look for it and try to post a link if such a source still exists. But I probably won't bother because I have a sneaking suspicion it will be dismissed out of hand no matter where it came from.
Of course it will be dismissed out of hand. You could lay the corpses in their frontyard and they'll claim it are dummies. You could show them around Dachau and they'll claim it's a Hollywood fabrication. Nothing will ever suffice as evidence because that isn't the point with them.
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